Hi Marty, 
 
Thanks for checking my PM and responding. Sorry if you read my post as you screwing us, I was referring to the manufacturer f**king them and still sending them out when they are clearly different to the first batch!
 
Looking at WIDEMR's pinion his is still different to mine, the diameter of the bit above the helical section where the bearing fits is larger on mine (type B) than his (type A).
 
I'm sorry to hear about your situation Marty. My MR2 has also been off the road since I received the pinion, I'd really like to get it installed and get my car back on the road. Please tell me there is a way we can get these pinions re-manufactured? I would rather throw another few bucks into getting a correct one posted here then throw away over $400 for a useless lump of metal, especially knowing those who received their pinions from the first batch can actually use theirs!
 
Do you have an equivalent of ACCC over there that you can lodge a complaint with and say you paid this company to make x amount of pinions, they made half correctly, the other half are not manufactured correctly and are not suitable?
 
Cheers.

I have a customers pinion type B in a rack which he has yet to collect and a type A at my parents garage.
 
I have tested both for fitment and are good. Give me a few days and I will take photos to see exactly what has gone wrong here.
 
The thing that makes it incredibly frustrating for me is the fact that the manufacturer is far away in another country and so are you guys. I always like to be in person when I am getting something done or sorting something out.
 
Don't write that pinion off, I'm sure it can be sorted. Can you borrow a original pinion from a fellow MR2 owner to get you back on the road until I get this sorted ?
 
The manufacturer is Beard & Fitch based in the UK.

Both types of pinion have three steps just above the helical thread.
MC and WIDEMR pinions only have two of these steps.
 
I can either have them returned again (I know, it's a pain in the arse and a long wait) or return them to me and I will offer a refund as soon as funds permit. Either way this won't be resolved quickly I am afraid, sorry. I can imagine your patience has run out by now.
 
One other option would be to see if a local manufacturer could make the missing part, but at your own expense as I'm skint at the moment. I'm not sure if it can be done, but if you would rather not wait any longer it's up to you guys.
 
 

dwyer125
I still have to check mine. 
 
Is it possible the ones with only 2 steps could have a sleeve machined and pressed on?

Pm returned.
 
I'm not a engineer so I don't know if it is possible to press one on. If it is able to be pressed on, so long as the pressed on part rotates with the rest of the pinion body, then I cannot see there being a problem.

I ordered a Pinion A, but i have received a Pinion B that still has not been made right? After i already had to send it back to Ireland at my cost as soon as i got it?
 
I dont think im interested in send it back again and seeing if they will fix it.
 
If anyone has a Pinion A or B that has been made correctly, that is interested in selling, please let me know.

So I finally installed this pinion today.  Not many people seem to have given feed back so I will.
 
I was in pretty much the same boat as WIDEMR i.e. I had a 'rev A' rack and my QR pinion was missing a bearing sleeve.  The pinion bearing in the rev A rack is only slightly bigger than the pinion teeth outer diameter - not enough fit a strong sleeve.  So I tracked down a rack assembly from after September 1993 ('rev B') which runs a larger bearing, then got a bearing sleeve from BSC (p/n: PI121608), then had the pinion machined down from 19.7 to 19.06mm and pressed the sleeve on.  That bearing sleeve fit perfectly into the rack so I was finally ready to test it out.
 
First problem I had was the power steering acting up.  Same sort of symptoms as Marty and others had with a damaged seal - i.e. steering pulls to one side and tends to steer away from centre.  Even though the PS was odd, the steering ratio definitely felt like it should have been that way from factory - much livelier.
 
Then I disconnected the power steering pump, having read that it doesn't do much over 30kph.  That's BS - the steering was still heavy at 90kph but had no extra road feel.  I wouldn't recommend disconnecting the PS but iyou could live with it. Manual racks might work better, not having to pump steering fluid around.
 
The main issue I had was that the steering had a really wide dead band of about 4 degrees - it was great mid corner but sucked when changing direction.  I did adjust the rack preload but there really was no happy place - either the rack was very loose, or it was tight, notchy and still with loose spots.  It's possible that this issue is due to me machining the pinion down from 19.7 to 19.06.  If any else has had these pinions fitted without introducing slack into the system I'd be interested to know.  I still don't understand how you can add a tooth without changing the pinion diameter or rack...
 
On a side note, Marty was very helpful in getting dimensions and other info to get the pinion in the car. Glad to have at least tried it but will refit the old rack tomorrow : /

 

 

MC
I still don't understand how you can add a tooth without changing the pinion diameter or rack...

Simply, you cannot do this properly. To introduce another tooth into the pinion while maintaining the pinion diameter and center distances means your changing the tooth shape/pitch to one that does not match the rack, hence why your getting all the slop now.
 
If your looking at adjusting the steering ratio, I would look at a steering quickener box that is fitted into the non-collapsible section of the steering column.

 
These are regularly used in rally and speedway where they need quick steering movements and good feedback.