Gatesys SW20
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Re: overheating issue wierd
2013/04/26 21:41:20
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Oh and also I would advise against a pressure test in the system Mainly due to the fact it could cause a lot more damage
A lot if radiator shops do it To open leaks up more so you have to buy a new water pump radiator etc when you really did not need it.
Just a thiught
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Re: overheating issue wierd
2013/04/26 21:43:25
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I had the pressure cap off most of the time as a lot of my bubbles came out of there only out it on for the high idle and revving part
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Re: overheating issue wierd
2013/04/26 21:50:02
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Gatesys by disconnecting the "plug" for the thermo switch (driver side radiator tank) that should keep the fans on 100% with ignition on. I found this info handy.
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Re: overheating issue wierd
2013/04/26 21:58:20
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Yeah I did that aswell to check to see if my fan motors worked and once I knew that it wasn't the relay or the fan it was something to do with the switch
Seems the system in my case needed a good bleed now the fans come up once at operating temp am turn off and turn on etc etc
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Re: overheating issue wierd
2013/04/27 17:17:37
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Update .... spent the whole day bleeding the system. and just to make 100% sure I did both methods, idle for several mins etc etc .... went for a test... all was good ... boosted up a few hills as a minor strain test ... idled fine etc etc no jump in temp .... ok time for more strain... went and "cut sick" for probably all of 30 seconds in the form of a couple of doughnuts to get the turbo working and strain the engine some... got down the road ... temp jumped again... took extra notice that thermo's did not come on... jammed on the heater full blast as I slowly accelerated (slowly to prevent boosting) temp came back down slowly at first then from 3/4 to 1/2 very rapidly, also noticed a fluctuation of heat in the heater itself... only water to escape was from the overflow bottle... heater on whole way home (not far) and temp stayed normal, but jumped up higher as I got closer to home. Surely with the amount of coolant in the system not having the thermo's kick in wouldn't make the temp rise extremely quickly. Unsure what to think now, as it only seems to happen under fairly high boost (11lb) I am leaning toward a slight crack in the head. On top of a buggered thermo-fan switch, and with the fluctuation in temp for the heater, I have not noticed if the heater is mixed in with the thermostat cycle, or if the change in temp is just due to bubbles as the coolant was boiling. Might just park it for the mean time until I get a new switch, and thermostat. Will also try a compression test in the meantime. And cross my fingers it has not done a head.
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Re: overheating issue wierd
2013/04/27 21:56:21
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I reckon take it in to a garage and get it checked properly. I'd still be leaning towards your head gasket being gone. With your thermos on the whole time with the switch disconnected the temps still rised, so I wouldn't bother replacing the switch at this stage. If your thermo's full blast can't cool it you have something major going wrong.
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Re: overheating issue wierd
2013/04/27 22:07:24
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no no, only realised for sure that the switch was gone after it heated up this time. that was when I pulled the plug on them.
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Re: overheating issue wierd
2013/04/28 10:24:17
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ohhh all good then, easy fix.
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Re: overheating issue wierd
2013/04/28 14:54:35
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not so easy fix ... bleed again today, unplugged thermo's so they on... still heated up. FML ... oh well ... Ill just have to drive the N/A around for a bit. no biggy.
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Re: overheating issue wierd
2013/04/28 17:57:12
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Hmm I never had fan problems but it can't be that bad considering the coolant capacity? has this car ever had engine swap?
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Re: overheating issue wierd
2013/04/28 18:46:54
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I wouldn't think so, I am fairly certain that I have warped / cracked head or blown head gasket. just going to park it until a few bits and pieces arrive, then I will test further, before I strip it down. If it does come down to stripping her down though I think I will get some head work done, and possibly some cams too... turn a negative into a positive.
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Re: overheating issue wierd
2013/04/30 20:30:22
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Might even try some Cargo seal, or even Chemiweld ... as It only seems to happen under longer boost, I am fairly certain that either it be a crack, or warp, or gasket, that it would be small enough that one of these options may fix it. Any recommendations, (regarding a fix like this) anyone know of one that works well? ... a friend says Cargoseal, yet I say chemi-weld...
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Re: overheating issue wierd
2013/04/30 20:37:17
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I sell heaps of the Cargo seal "seal up" but I would say both are a band aid fix...
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Re: overheating issue wierd
2013/04/30 20:40:29
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this is true, usually only a "quick fix" but sometimes (and I have had it happen) it will work for years...
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Re: overheating issue wierd
2013/04/30 20:42:09
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I wouldn't put any of that chemical fix in a bottle stuff in my MR2's cooling system. Its likely to cause some other long term harm to something else like a heater core or radiator. My recommendation would be to just get it fixed properly. I would try the chemical stuff in a $1000 s-box though.
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