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Re:Smashed front :( 2012/08/04 15:06:15 (permalink)
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Financial write off yes.
 
It is only a NA, and as such the market value isnt high.
 
They did say it was on the borderline, but as some parts may have to be sourced new from Toyota it wouldnt be financially wise to fix it.
 
Did you have full insurance?
 
 


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Re:Smashed front :( 2012/08/04 15:15:33 (permalink)
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No full comp.
 
yehh looks like I'm going to have.
 
1. find a donor and swap everything over.
2. cut and shut the front (are we even allowed to do that here in Victoria?). find the panels and other bits.
 
Now I'm not sure which one costs more.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
post edited by sprigs - 2012/08/04 15:19:41
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Re:Smashed front :( 2012/08/04 16:40:51 (permalink)
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Can it drive straight? Cars with a heavy accident sometimes never drive straight ever again so if it can't then def have to move on to a new shell sorry mate
Maybe talk to a panel beater for more insight on what to do next
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Re:Smashed front :( 2012/08/05 13:44:34 (permalink)
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Well I only had the chance to take it up the drive way, it turns fine, no pulling or any resistance.
 
 
 
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Re:Smashed front :( 2012/08/05 14:13:24 (permalink)
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I wouldn't think you'd need a 'cut and shut' with that sort of damage.
 
I'd take it somewhere for a quote, after the quote ask them for a price where you supply all parts. You shouldn't have any problem finding what you need here.
 
I think the car did it on purpose trying to scrape that veilside (not sure..) thing off its nose.
 
I guess its comes down to if the car is straight or not, and the cost. If its straight and you are happy with the rest of the car it could be worth saving.

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Re:Smashed front :( 2012/08/06 00:01:52 (permalink)
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The front clip repair like the link you posted is exactly what you require.
 
A true gen3 turbo with the optional traction control in a rare green colour is about as desirable as it gets for a SW2O ((save for a hardtop)
 
Insurance companies write all old cars off at minor damage as they write anything off over 3/4 the market value of the car (even less for water damage), this includes rare cars.
 
However let them write it off and you get a payout and first option to buy it back if you wish. They will get bugger all for that car at the auctions so if you want to repair it you should come out of it ok. Reshelling is an option but you may as well just buy another car and not worry about swapping bits.
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Re:Smashed front :( 2012/08/06 00:54:50 (permalink)
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^^ Kam's advice may stand true in any state bar NSW re repair rules.
 
They seem to change weekly but for any NSW punters (as Sprigs seems to be in VIC) you'd have to argue your case against the 'Statutory write off' laws as if the insurance co. deem it a write off it can never be re-registered in any state in Australia.
 
Yes, it does seem to be changing more often than XXXXX changes his underwear but it comes down to you pressing the point with your insurance company.
 
^^ I really think a proper inspection had to be made re damage to the floor pan and surrounds.
 
Really, if you like the car, its running nice and you have it all sorted out and you are happy with it, fix it. (Pending dollars!!)
If its just a car, get another one.

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Re:Smashed front :( 2012/08/06 01:51:40 (permalink)
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Unfortunately there won't be any payout as I did not have a full comp policy (3rd party) , I'll be forking it out of my own wallet.
 
Kameleon do you know if Huey does these sort of jobs (i.e link I posted)?  I'd figure I'd take it to a place where the probability of getting it fixed is higher.
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Re:Smashed front :( 2012/08/06 07:16:28 (permalink)
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hmmm it makes me wonder if full comp is worth it... if they paid me out and i had to buy my parts/car back i probably wouldn't end up with anything left from my payout.....

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Re:Smashed front :( 2012/08/06 11:00:01 (permalink)
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hmmm it makes me wonder if full comp is worth it... if they paid me out and i had to buy my parts/car back i probably wouldn't end up with anything left from my payout.....

Usually they allow you to buy the wreck back for about $1000-$1500, depending on car & insurance of couse - when my sw20 turbo was written off I had the option of buying it back for a grand or 1500 I think - and since I'm now insured with a company that allows salvage rights, It might be even less than that now (I'd have to check). The value of full comprehensive is also more useful when it comes to hitting other cars - if you're in the wrong, and you DON'T have full comprehensive, any damage to the OTHER car comes out of your own pocket - this is what many people don't realise, and leads to a lot of financial heartbreak down the road...
 
Unfortunately with the MR2 the front end being all crumple zone means everything just kinda folds in - a big empty space up front means even small impacts cause floorpan or structural damage - judging from the damage, if you'd hit something wider that distributed the impact across the front of the car you might have got away with it, or even hit something with a bit of give - but as said above, the financial aspect of repairing this car probably makes it worth moving on, particularly since it'll require some professional work done to get it looking (and feeling) right. even though it may drive ok at low speed, the last thing you want is to spend $$$ to get it sort-of-fixed up, get out on the road, and find out something isn't right at 100km/h on the motorway...
 
I'd say (as said by others above) either a reshell or part out to try and recoup costs would be the way to go here sadly, maybe put the money towards some better tyres for your next car ;)
 
 
 
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Re:Smashed front :( 2012/08/06 20:40:51 (permalink)
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As you do not have full comprehensive insurance and there are no other parties involved, this obviously cant be written off.
 
Its up to you. I would get car by a qualified (approved smash repairer) and explain to him it will be out of your own pocket and go from there.
 
Make sure you do mention your scenario regarding insurance, as many smash repairers would take ridiculous mark ups if going through insurance. I would also explain that you may have access to second hand bits (if you can source them).
 
It might also pay to speak to a suspension specialist, maybe get him to look car/chassis. Even if it drives straight, doesn't mean everything under there is straight. As I found out with one of my other cars....

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Re:Smashed front :( 2012/08/07 00:04:04 (permalink)
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 The value of full comprehensive is also more useful when it comes to hitting other cars - if you're in the wrong, and you DON'T have full comprehensive, any damage to the OTHER car comes out of your own pocket - this is what many people don't realise, and leads to a lot of financial heartbreak down the road...
 

I thought thats was what third party property was for?
 
Comprehensive is comes into its own when someone ELSE crashes into you but they are UNinsured. Saves you going to all the bs and hassle of taking them to court etc. to recover the damages.

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Re:Smashed front :( 2012/08/07 00:47:14 (permalink)
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hmm, a reshell is prob the logical path to take, but swapping everything over feels costly. That and I most definitely have to get it engineered and that sounds expensive already.
 
I'm going to budget 6k for the front repair. Hope that's enough, otherwise I'm going to have to bite the bullet and part out.
 
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Re:Smashed front :( 2012/08/07 00:48:01 (permalink)
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Usually there are 4 levels of insurance:
 
CTP (Compulsury Third Party): This is included in your rego (well at least in WA) this is basically if you injure someone. This does not cover any property damage.
 
Third Party: Covers damage if you're at fault to other party for property damage, does not cover your own car. In some cases (SGIO) if the other party is at fault and they are uninsured it covers you up to $5000
 
Third Party (Fire and Theft): As above, but covers you in the event your car is stolen or burnt.
 
Full Comp: Pretty sure everyone knows what that is.

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Re:Smashed front :( 2012/08/07 03:40:58 (permalink)
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I saw some nose cuts (not front half cuts) from SSS Automotive, maybe you can source one from them cheap. I'm not sure if there's a diff between Gen 2 and Gen 3 fronts but if you need Gen 3 maybe you can import cheap (yours is Gen 3 right?)
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