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Re:My SW20 2014/04/15 07:29:30 (permalink)
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I think he has a supercharged 3.0 V6 with a bunch of handling 'fruit ' fitted but that could be another car. At any rate, great time w
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Re:My SW20 2014/04/15 11:42:35 (permalink)
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impressive time, great to see MR2's on the track where they should be!!
 
i got a 1:11.7 (natsoft) with street tyres and 160rwkw @ 5psi


How did you manage to only run 5psi? I thought that the MR2 wastegate actuator was 10psi minimum or thereabouts


3.0L V6 camry powerplant, stock is 145kw at the flywheel, with 5psi 160kw at the wheels. peak power @ 5,000rpm
 
nothin too fancy with the handling, eibach springs and koni shocks, but emphasis on chassis rigidity and aggressive alignment. with semi slicks i think there could be room for a 1-2 second improvement, definitely lacking grip with my street tyres.
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Re:My SW20 2014/04/15 11:52:15 (permalink)
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Ah that explains it. That's a great time for street tyres.
Will we see you at the MTC next year?

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Re:My SW20 2014/04/15 12:16:44 (permalink)
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Ah that explains it. That's a great time for street tyres.
Will we see you at the MTC next year?


thanks! here is the vid if you are interested. http://youtu.be/1IsjAJWEy28
you can see how twitchy the car is with street tyres. also notice how i take the horseshoe in 4th gear, the advantage of 400nm at 3000rpm.
im dedicated to street setup, drive to the track, drive home, no changes :)
(other than removing spare tyre and jack etc)
not sure yet, thats a while away. although i am looking at attending the NSCC day 31/05/14. how about you?
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Re:My SW20 2014/04/15 21:19:53 (permalink)
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I'd be proud of the Olympic Stadium KOM too
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Re:My SW20 2014/04/26 14:11:38 (permalink)
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Hi guys,
I have a strange problem with my engine and need some opinions.
I drove it at Eastern Creek a couple of weeks ago and it ran fine though when I drove into the pit lane after a cool down lap after the third session, it stalled. I then clutched it as I was still rolling and it was spluttering a bit. It had run OK when I was racing. When I went to drive in the 4th session, it wouldn't start. I gave up and winched it onto the trailer.
I checked it yesterday and the plugs were fouled, as I expected. I then put some new hotter plugs in and it still wouldn't start. I was perplexed.
I went through the normal fault finding process and came to the conclusion that the compression in all 4 cylinders was very low - around 75psi
I checked a few things to figure out the cause and found that there was no inlet valve clearance - on any of them. The exhaust valve clearances were however all within tolerance.
I loosened the inlet cam caps until I had the right clearance (for testing purposes only - I didn't run the engine like this) and retested the compression and it was 190psi. This proved that the cam was holding the inlet valves slightly open when they should have been closed.
So my question is this - What caused my inlet valve clearances to change?
The engine had been running fine previously.
I have oversized valves. The only thing that I can think of is that the valve seats have relaxed after a few hundred KMs of hard driving. Any other ideas?
Should I just re-shim and keep driving? Everything else looks fine.

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Re:My SW20 2014/04/26 16:26:54 (permalink)
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Did you check your cam timing at all? I don't think its likely that all four cylinders valves relaxed at exactly the same time and exactly the same amount to cause this issue. Even on race engines I've had from new I have never come across valve seats relaxing to cause loss of compression like that. Even high revving factory engines like motor bike engines don't have this issue. I'd check your cam timing, if your running adjustable sprockets maybe they have slipped if they are not the doweled types.
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Re:My SW20 2014/04/26 16:28:26 (permalink)
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I would take the CAMS out to check all retainers and colletts are ok, then reset all the shims. Are you running shim under bucket?
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Re:My SW20 2014/04/26 17:40:13 (permalink)
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I agree with track_mr2. Sounds like a valve timing issue.  Maybe the timing belt jumped a few teeth.

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Re:My SW20 2014/04/26 18:54:27 (permalink)
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I also agree with track mr2. Could well be a cam gear that moved. Certainly makes perfect sense. Hey track mr2, feel like helping me assemble a 2GR!
 
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Re:My SW20 2014/04/26 21:20:04 (permalink)
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No - the valve timing is perfect and the belt is tight. I checked it.
I have a theory that the clearance was never right and it may explain why the engine never idled properly and spits flames out the back on over run.
My engine builder did the head and I didn't check the clearances when putting it onto the block. A lesson has been learnt!
If I set the clearances correctly and the engine idles well, it will prove my theory. I have been blaming the injectors for the bad idle. The previous engine idled fine with those injectors.

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Re:My SW20 2014/04/26 21:30:56 (permalink)
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Did you check your cam timing at all? I don't think its likely that all four cylinders valves relaxed at exactly the same time and exactly the same amount to cause this issue. Even on race engines I've had from new I have never come across valve seats relaxing to cause loss of compression like that. Even high revving factory engines like motor bike engines don't have this issue. I'd check your cam timing, if your running adjustable sprockets maybe they have slipped if they are not the doweled types.

The timing is fine. I'm running standard sprockets. There is no clearance at all between the base of the cam lobe and the shim. Even if the timing was wrong, there should be some clearance. All 8 of the inlet lobes have 0 clearance.

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Re:My SW20 2014/04/26 21:33:13 (permalink)
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Are you running shim under bucket?

No - standard buckets and shims

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Re:My SW20 2014/04/26 21:36:30 (permalink)
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I'll be taking all the shims out tomorrow, measuring them and ordering some thinner ones. I won't know the exact thickness I will need though I'll probably buy one set one size thinner and also another set two sizes thinner just in case.
Because race car! It never ends.....

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Re:My SW20 2014/04/26 21:47:01 (permalink)
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I also agree with track mr2. Could well be a cam gear that moved. Certainly makes perfect sense. Hey track mr2, feel like helping me assemble a 2GR!
 



Hahaha I would but I'm in Melbourne.
 
Admin I still reckon something else is wrong BECAUSE you were able to start you car and run it fine for 3 session etc...So something has changed for your car not to start or run even worse now right?
 
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