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RE: Vaeth's Rebuild Blog 2009/01/29 10:22:07 (permalink)
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you havent touched the coating with your bare hands have you?
I hope they told you to use a cotton/wooly glove to handle it, and only once its on the car and been run for a while that you can touch it with your hands.

I got some stuff coated in perth and was very pleased with work. Seems to keep alot of heat down in engine bay as well.

I would suggest getting your b pipe done as well. Dump is pointless without b pipe being coated as well. What ive been told anyways.
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RE: Vaeth's Rebuild Blog 2009/01/29 12:14:45 (permalink)
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You should be able to touch it normally if they've cured it properly in an oven.

I paid near on $700 (or maybe more, was a while ago) for the turbine housing, dump pipe, and exhaust manifold. Don't let anything be in contact with it when its in operation. I could have more or less killed my coating as well from running locked timing for a couple of hundred KM's. I dont think it seems to hold all that much heat in. Turbo still glows red as :P
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RE: Vaeth's Rebuild Blog 2009/01/29 12:31:44 (permalink)
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Well, I haven't handled it with my hands, using instead the bubble wrap it was wrapped in to move it around. But no, there was no instructions or warning not to handle the parts by hand.

HPC Victoria has replied to my email and offered to touch up the flaking parts if I send it back to them. Seeing as shipping is only $15 each way (and hopefully they'll pay for the return shipping?) I guess I might as well send it back to them.

Biggest worry at the moment is if those portions where the coating has flaked off end up seeing more heat than the rest of the part, causing the welds in those portions to fail.

I read that thermal wrapping holds more heat in than thermal coating, but can introduce other problems of their own (though nothing conclusive...). But even if the thermal coating reduces my bonnet temps by just 10% - 15%, that's better than nothing. I'll take whatever I can get.
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RE: Vaeth's Rebuild Blog 2009/02/13 22:44:45 (permalink)
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The dramas with the thermal coating continue. In some ways it reflects bad on HPC Victoria (the company that did the coating), and in some way it reflects well on them at the same time.

As mentioned above, they sent the dump pipe back to me with bits of the coating already flaking off. HPC said to send it back to them for a touch up, which I did. Within about 5 days, I got it back again. The coating had indeed been touched up where it was flaking, but...another part of the coating is now flaking off. This time, more severe than the last:



Contacted HPC Vic again, and they said to send it back to them. They will strip the coating entirely and apply a new one. He also asked for a photo so he could show the workman who did the original coating (which didn't make much sense to me - why would you want a photo when the part would be in your hands in a few days?)

Anyway...HPC Vic also offered to cover the cost of sending it back to them. Not sure how they're going to do that though, as I had to pay for the shipping at the Aus Post counter. So...unless they send me cash in an envelope? Is there "reverse charge" for posting?

HPC Vic was sincere/genuine enough to apologize for the inconvenience, which racks up good will with me. So...anyway, that's that for now. Dump pipe should be back early next week...this time hopefully fully coated.


post edited by MR2Vaeth - 2016/12/31 00:34:03
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RE: Vaeth's Rebuild Blog 2009/09/18 11:31:37 (permalink)
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Final Chapter of a 2.5 year saga:

The story of a little Gen 3 with a blown engine sitting in Osaka, Japan is reaching its final chapter.

Since the last update above regarding the thermal coating and also regarding the blocked fuel filter, I have gotten the fuel filter changed and the dump pipe has come back perfect. No flaking whatsoever. I brought the car to the tuners last Saturday and got a message yesterday saying it was ready. The good news was that the previous fuel blockage was indeed caused by a blocked fuel filter. Fuel flow is now smooth and strong, with no problems whatsoever. The bad news is that there is apparently "no more power in it". The amount of power being produced now is the same as when the car had a blocked fuel filter (i.e. 185 kW). I'll be picking up the car tomorrow so I'll know for sure the exact power it is producing now.

All in all, it's a rather disappointing result for me considering how long (and how much) it has taken/cost me to get to where I am with the car today. But if this is it, then this is it. I was just expecting -easily- more than 185 kW.

In summary, if your car has the following mods, expect 185 kW at 18psi:

Exhaust: Kakimoto 3" 2000 N1+ (almost a straight pipe), and SARD Downpipe
Fuel: Upgraded SARD fuel pump, HKS top feed fuel rail, HKS 680cc injectors
Cams: HKS 264/264
Turbo: Blitz K1-380V
Intercooler: ARC
Air Filter: ARC Box
Internals: Mahle pistons




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RE: Vaeth's Rebuild Blog 2009/09/18 11:50:21 (permalink)
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what computer are you running?????
what afr's was it running
have you looked into water to air
hopefully you can get soem more out of it

cheers
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RE: Vaeth's Rebuild Blog 2009/09/18 12:58:50 (permalink)
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thats around 40 to 50 rwkw better than stock is it not? whats the duty cycle on the injectors at that power?
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RE: Vaeth's Rebuild Blog 2009/09/18 17:57:22 (permalink)
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this is kinda f%cked brendan....

i can feel your dissapointment from here:(
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RE: Vaeth's Rebuild Blog 2009/09/18 18:30:19 (permalink)
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I must say that's a pretty disappointing power figure considering I'm on 170rwkw untuned with a CT20B and full decat exhaust on a stock gen2 motor done 130'000kms. Might pay to get a decent computer running it all?
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RE: Vaeth's Rebuild Blog 2009/09/18 21:00:29 (permalink)
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jdmr288: You basically summarized my situation in one sentence.

I'm running a PFC. It should be more than sufficient for my purposes. Injectors are 680cc, so at 185kW then should not be -anywhere- near 80% duty cycle. I'll know for sure once I get the car back tomorrow and be able to check the FC Commander. Something is amiss. It's just bloody frustrating and aggravating not being able to find a workshop/tuner/mechanic that will work WITH you in making your car all it can be. (exception to this being WTF Auto - Tristan is great).

Anyway, I'm done with this. CBF anymore really. Until such time as I meet a workshop that actually looks like they give a damn, I'm not gonna bother.
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RE: Vaeth's Rebuild Blog 2009/09/18 21:26:14 (permalink)
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stick with it. hopefully its something simple. where are you located? surely someone on here can put you on to a decent mechanic
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RE: Vaeth's Rebuild Blog 2009/09/18 21:40:49 (permalink)
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I'm sorry to hear you didn't make any extra power man. There should be more potential there!

As you know I had a very similar setup to you (expect I was running stock cams) and made 191rwkw.

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RE: Vaeth's Rebuild Blog 2009/09/19 15:39:01 (permalink)
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Send me the dynosheet Brendan. Come to the next meet & I'll have a good look at the car. I'm sure it's got more in it, I suspect cam timing.
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RE: Vaeth's Rebuild Blog 2009/09/19 18:58:01 (permalink)
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Sounds good Jay, I'll do that. Actually, Matt didn't give me a dynosheet, so I'll have to see if he can email it to me. I've also downloaded the map onto my laptop if anyone with a Datalogit wants to have a look at it.
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RE: Vaeth's Rebuild Blog 2009/09/21 11:22:11 (permalink)
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Finally managed to get a hold of the tuner for a chat. Main problem is that the maximum boost the turbo could generate was 14.7 psi. He cranked the boost controller setting up as high as it could go and still it could not boost past 14.7 psi.

14.7 psi boost, plus turbo working at max. capacity, seems to be the clear culprit for a 20 - 30 kw loss of power. No idea what the problem is yet. Maybe BOV, maybe leaking hose?
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