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Hot!10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris)

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Re: 10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris) 2016/08/27 01:54:07 (permalink)
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what are the difference between this v2 and the ones that you can buy at aliexpress atm?
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Re: 10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris) 2016/08/27 12:28:45 (permalink)
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There is a fair few differences. The ones you see on there now ranging from $89USD to $110USD before shipping are the v1 models as well.
 
Below are some of the key differences between the v1 and these newer models. Forgive me if this is too long, but I’m in the process of writing some of this stuff up for the product description for them on the webstore and for the new thread on here, so might as well post it here as well for those interested to have a read now.
 
Screen configuration can be changed on these, the v1’s it’s fixed.
 
The v1’s have fixed KPH/KPA/C & MPH/PSI/F, the newer models you can select any combo you want. I myself am a KPH/PSI/C guy, would have given me the ****s with KPA on there.
 
The v1’s use an analog cable going from control box to the gauge, it’s got a crap load of wires in it so it’s really thick and it’s also too short for MR2 installs. This cable would not easily be extended and so each sensors cables would need to be extended individually instead for a MR2 install. The newer models use a 4 wire serial cable, apart from the benefits of using serial to transfer sensor data, it’s easier to run the cable and with the stocks I’m getting made up I am getting them made up in 3m lengths so they are long enough for MR2 people to install without having to extend themselves. Depending on how this install of the sample unit goes, we might find other cables that need extending for mid/rear mount engine car installs and I can get that sorted.
 
The control box the sensor’s connect too is no longer really just a very basic analog pass-through box. It’s now much bigger and a digital box that handles all the sensor data coming in internally before converting to a serial data signal and sending to the gauge. This has also allowed them to add in some fault detection, such as the unit can detect a short on a particular sensor and then have the screen display an error message so you know which sensor is causing a problem. The control box itself is much more advanced, the older v1 models it really was nothing more than a pass-through box, this newer model it’s truly a control box.
 
These have daisy chain support, link multiple screens or supported external gauges like tacho’s.
 
The warning alarm system is more advanced now, if a warning is triggered apart from the unit beeping, it will highlight the sensor which triggered the alarm on the screen. If the screen you have selected does not currently have the sensor which triggered the alarm displaying, the bottom left hand cell on the gauge is now a multi cell. So let’s say Oil Temp triggered a warning alarm, but it’s not currently setup on the screen, you have boost in the bottom left of the screen, where the boost is will change to a highlighted Oil Temp along with the unit beeping so you know exactly which sensor has triggered the alarm.
 
They now have the option also for an external warning light similar looking to a shift light, this is a separate product I will probably get a couple in. Basically if these are installed into a track car and someone is racing, even with the unit beeping and a highlighted sensor on the screen, the driver may not notice. So this extra warning light can be placed somewhere in the cabin where the driver can easily see it, if an alarm is triggered he will see the big warning light and know to take a look at the gauge.
 
The v1’s ended up being made by a few different factories, so quality between factories varied, especially with the sensors. The factory I am dealing with was the first to produce a v1 and then the other factories followed. I sampled some gauges and gear from another factory that made v1’s as well while looking around, I found their sensors to be much lower quality. Had heaps of their map sensors die on me or DOA and they blamed shipping which is a load of crap. This factory I’m dealing with now their samples of the v1’s I sold none had any sensors fail or DOA.
 
My aim is to be able to offer these to Au people at the same price or below what they could import for themselves. Also to have the kits customized to some degree to meet varied install needs, such as getting extended cables or any other minor but helpful changes that make them better than just importing themselves.
 
Just like the v1 models these newer ones will be eventually copied by other factories and sold. So again there will be a bunch of them on the market with varying quality, I have sort out the original factory that made these first which also seems to be the one which takes pride in selling them with quality sensors and components. I only learned yesterday they source their OLED screens for them from Taiwan. There will be a point where there is going to be pretty crappy quality versions of these out there, most likely at a lower cost and I see the opportunity to be able to sell the good quality ones here.
 
Another difference is I will be doing a bundle of these along with a wideband sensor for those wanting a wideband setup as well. This should come in around the $350 mark, these wideband are USA made and come with a genuine Bosch 4.9 sensor. This gauge along with wideband for $350 is a pretty decent deal.
 
Anyway, post is way way too long, so I will stop there lol. Will refine this info some more and create a new thread asap.
post edited by dave_101 - 2016/08/27 12:33:20
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Re: 10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris) 2016/08/28 20:27:46 (permalink)
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dave, i like that you have a vested amount of time in the product and can articulate its particulars. it appears as though it will be a good product.
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Re: 10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris) 2016/08/28 22:48:27 (permalink)
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cheers for the explanation regarding the differences, since there wasnt much info on the net, definitely clear some questions i had.
 
def keen on one.
 
cheers
 
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Re: 10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris) 2016/08/29 14:47:38 (permalink)
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dave, i like that you have a vested amount of time in the product and can articulate its particulars. it appears as though it will be a good product.



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cheers for the explanation regarding the differences, since there wasnt much info on the net, definitely clear some questions i had.
 
def keen on one.
 
cheers
 
Kev


 
Thanks guy’s for the comments, sorry it was a long post, but sometimes those can be helpful for people. :)
 
This sample got shipped off today to be installed into an AW11 end of this week, so I should have some feedback around the end of next week. This will help finalize any other cables that may need to be made longer in the kits, as well as comparison data on the sensors accuracy which I expect to also come up pretty good.
 
Will throw an update in here asap.
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Re: 10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris) 2016/09/07 13:57:14 (permalink)
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Nathan managed to install 95% of the sample last week and all went well. He’s been able to test everything except RPM and Wideband input so far. Hopefully he gets sometime this week to test those out. He’s been a big help, was really good to get the sample installed into a car for proper testing and in the hands of someone like Nathan for proper feedback.
 
Sensor accuracy seems to be coming up pretty good from his reports, attached a photo of him testing the Fuel Pressure sensor below along with his feedback so far. The addition of the calibration function in the gauge looks like it will come in handy.
 
He was also able to confirm that some of the sensor wires needed to be extended for MR2 installs as well. I have already spoken with the factory and they confirmed they will extend the below cables for my kits.
 
Control box to gauge cable 3m
Pressure sensor cables 2.5m
Temp sensor cables 2.5m
 
As it stands now, I am going to be shooting for the first stocks to arrive around the end of this month.
 
 
 
The instructions supplied are probably the clearest and most detailed i have seen supplied with any gauges, short of motec/racepak dashes.
 
Refresh rate on the sensors look good, looks like they have a good level of filtering on the signals before display.
 
First impressions im impressed. Must admit i havent hooked up the dimmer on the gauge, but even brighness of gauge is good. No bleeding on the display. Piston locking nut on back of display is a nice touch too.
 
Okay. So i checked water temp, and it was accurate to 1.5c testing from 20 to 82c. It followed perfect to about 73c, then started to drift, but nothing to worry about
 
Turbo sensor is accurate to about 3kpa in my initial checks, but i will check it more thoroughly when i get a chance.
 
Fuel pressure tracks correctly, but i had to put an offset in the calibration. I will move my reference gauge to confirm, but was reading .4bar too high initially.

 
 
 
 
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Re: 10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris) 2016/09/23 06:13:47 (permalink)
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GTII, your inbox is full. :)
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Re: 10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris) 2016/09/23 09:16:53 (permalink)
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Quick update.

Approved the final design for the screen faceplate last week, attached image.

They are just working on converting the JRP logo to dot matrix to be programmed into the gauges opening and closing ceremony. Once thats done they can start to program my stocks and will be ready to ship.

I would say stocks should ship to me early Oct, will throw up an update once they have shipped.

** Note the words "MR2 Australia" are not actually on the gauge, its an image watermark the forums put on uploaded images **
post edited by dave_101 - 2016/09/24 08:27:48
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Re: 10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris) 2016/09/23 10:55:41 (permalink)
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Nice work Dave. Keen

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Re: 10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris) 2016/09/23 11:07:07 (permalink)
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Also very keen!

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Re: 10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris) 2016/09/23 22:51:37 (permalink)
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Is there scope for a non-MR2 faceplate at all? I would be keen to run one in another model.
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Re: 10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris) 2016/09/24 07:44:01 (permalink)
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Is there scope for a non-MR2 faceplate at all? I would be keen to run one in another model.


Yeah man, those words MR2 Australia are not on the gauge, that's actually an image watermark the forum applies to uploaded images. :p

I saw that and wondered if people would think it was on the gauge, as it conveniently was placed in such a way it looked like it was part of the gauge.

So yeah, just to confirm, there is no MR2 Australia words on the gauge.
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Re: 10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris) 2016/10/04 09:33:13 (permalink)
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Widebands have been ordered and ship this week. Will be checking in with factory this week for an update on the gauges.
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Re: 10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris) 2016/10/09 11:13:23 (permalink)
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Widebands arrived ready for the gauges. :)

Turns out last week was a holiday in China, they are back to work on Monday. Should have a good idea this week when the first shipment of gauges will be sent.
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Re: 10in1 LCD Gauge, Oil & Water Temp, Boost, EGT, Fuel & Oil Pressure (Bris) 2016/10/10 16:36:13 (permalink)
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Got an update from the factory this morning for the gauges. :)
 
The front glass got delayed slightly, looking to be ready on the 20th.

They are working towards the first shipment being sent to me on the 24th.
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