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Re: 3RZFE into SW20 2014/04/29 18:11:16 (permalink)
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Ok so far most people seem to agree that for a reliable 300kw car your easiest option is to swap to built 5S bottom end, so my thinking is if you have to swap to a different short motor and you do still have to modify it for the intended purpose then why not explore other options. If you did go with something like the 2AR like Knightrous suggested or possibly the 2AZ and build that up could you possibly be gaining a reliable 300kw with the added bonus of a lighter weight engine and the option to run a 6 speed box.
Just thinking it may be food for thought if I had to look at buying a 5S to achieve what I wanted anyway.
 
And there seems to be a few people starting to play with the 2AR so I'm guessing there will be more and more performance parts becoming available for them.

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Re: 3RZFE into SW20 2014/05/04 14:17:42 (permalink)
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If you wanted an in depth look at a 2AR engine, have a read through this article:
 
http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/3102/Nerds-Eye-View-Inside-Fredric-AasboPapadakis-Racings-Amazing-V8-eating-2AR-Toyota-Engine.aspx
 
It is a look at the build up of an 800whp 2AR that Fredric Asabo uses in formula drift in the US. there are actually another two cars that run 2azfe engines as well.

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Re: 3RZFE into SW20 2014/05/05 06:38:30 (permalink)
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Thanks for the link!
I had seen some slight coverage on that car in Speedhunters recently, it sounds like quite a good engine.
 
http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/04/papadakis-racing-tc/
 

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Re: 3RZFE into SW20 2014/05/05 10:15:49 (permalink)
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I hope you have a decent budget for this project as you will need it! It will start at 5k for the V6 build then head upwards at a aggressive rate when considering turbo charging, built bottom ends etc.
For around the same money as a serious AR turbo or 5sgte (10k+) you could build a 2GR un-boosted with a figure close to what you are seeking and have a bomb load of usable power where it counts. Infact, on E85 I dare say you could get there. I personally love the turbo style of driving but after driving a 2GR race car recently (Thanks Pete!!) it really makes a difference and the sound is also very hard to beat. 
If you add some turbo or SC (both around the same money but less heat issues with the SC) you can achieve 700hp on E85 with a conservative set up. 1300hp has been achieved with 1.4 bar at 7000rpm. Budget for this kind of weapon is 25-30k being professionally built by some of the best in the country.  
I have no knowledge of your engine( will have to do some research at some stage)but the first thing to do is 'have the head flowed' to see what it can produce and what it required to get the flow rate balanced for your application. At least then you will know what your current engine is capable of for a few $100 before going crazy with something else. Also need to know how strong the bottom end is. The 2GR bottom end is standard in all these hi-po engine builds. Rods and pistons are replaced and the heads receive decent prep along with a number of other undisclosed tweaks to confirm reliability at sustained high rpm runs. If your bottom end is the same (6 bolt mains, forged crank, forged rods , etc) you may as well stick with the 2.7ltr as it will save you a lot of work/$$$.
 
 
 
 
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