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Re: MR2 Australia Trackday Challenge 2015/ MTC 2015. 12th-13th January. 34 Entries confirm
2015/01/25 10:58:07
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-Totenkopf- I have a 75 series L/C at the moment and its an old inefficient diesel and when towing my car still uses far less then 21L/100 towing my old exige on trailer. I could see an x5 doing 14l/100 towing my race car no worries.
Well, having an Exige on a trailer behind a land cruiser probably improves the l/c's aerodynamics immeasurably! The X5 is a nice car, I wouldn't mind having one. Highlander uses a 6cyl commo, I think he has said to me he would now prefer an 8 just for the extra torque.
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Re: MR2 Australia Trackday Challenge 2015/ MTC 2015. 12th-13th January. 34 Entries confirm
2015/01/25 12:07:16
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I used to tow with a VS V6 manual and it was OK though it wasn't ideal as the car was a little bit too small/light to tow another car on a trailer. It had power, brake and suspension upgrades. I wouldn't recommend using a standard VS as the brakes are way too small - even when you aren't towing! I now have a VE SV6 and it's great for towing. No mods, and no issues at all. The black evo driver at the track day has a VE SV6 wagon and borrowed my trailer to tow his evo up to Queensland for the evo nats and he loved it. I wasn't entirely happy when I heard the speeds that he was driving at while towing though he said it was all 100% stable. In summary, you don't need a truck/bus/tank to tow your race car.
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Re: MR2 Australia Trackday Challenge 2015/ MTC 2015. 12th-13th January. 34 Entries confirm
2015/01/25 12:15:52
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Admin In summary, you don't need a truck/bus/tank to tow your race car.
Not at all. But if you want a car that can do that and a family wagon (and you are a size queen) I could think of a lot less desirable cars than a diesel X5.
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Re: MR2 Australia Trackday Challenge 2015/ MTC 2015. 12th-13th January. 34 Entries confirm
2015/01/25 12:18:10
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Personal opinion I know, though I don't think of them as being desirable. A car that soccer mums want isn't something that I want.  And just because they look big on the outside doesn't mean they have a lot of room inside. I have asked many women why they like those big tanks and the most common answer is that they like to sit up high. I never hear anything mentioned about the car itself.
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Re: MR2 Australia Trackday Challenge 2015/ MTC 2015. 12th-13th January. 34 Entries confirm
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Re: MR2 Australia Trackday Challenge 2015/ MTC 2015. 12th-13th January. 34 Entries confirm
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Re: MR2 Australia Trackday Challenge 2015/ MTC 2015. 12th-13th January. 34 Entries confirm
2015/01/25 12:44:28
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Back on topic now. Wow great photos b24!
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Re: MR2 Australia Trackday Challenge 2015/ MTC 2015. 12th-13th January. 34 Entries confirm
2015/01/25 12:44:38
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-Totenkopf- What drugs are you guys on? A diesel will use ALOT less fuel then a petrol under towing conditions. I think an X5 is something like 8.7L/100 combined (not towing obviously). I have a 75 series L/C at the moment and its an old inefficient diesel and when towing my car still uses far less then 21L/100 towing my old exige on trailer. I could see an x5 doing 14l/100 towing my race car no worries. Also, whats towing capacity and ball weight capacity on your commodores?
What exactly are you on?? At what point do you think you are above everyone else to judge how people should or should not take their car to a event? If you have nothing constructive to add to this thread about MTC, do not comment as no one appreciates it.
As this would be my means of getting the car to MTC (if it were welcome) or Wakefield in general (as I will definitely be wanting to take it here) the question has some relevance. Frankly Steve, you are the one being hostile. A couple of people expressed their opinions that commodores were a good tow vehicle and that economy seemed good. I disagreed. I don't really care about the model of car, however, I think diesel is a prerequisite if you intend to do alot of towing. There is a good reason 99% of those grey nomads drive diesels. The L/C I have is 1) uncomfortable 2) lacks cabin space c) slow. I couldn't imagine driving to wakefield in it and not wanting to rip someones head off by the time I got there. I don't have a nice sports car road car anymore (impossible to have any fun on the road anyway and it wouldn't tow a race car) so I am looking for a comfortable tow car that can double as my daily (that will get driven once a week). Oh, and I'd much rather drive a falcon than a commodore frankly :P I have never been anything but courteous to you Steve and have spent my own personal time giving you advice and opinions on numerous occasions. I hope you are just having a ****ty day.
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Re: MR2 Australia Trackday Challenge 2015/ MTC 2015. 12th-13th January. 34 Entries confirm
2015/01/25 12:46:37
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Admin Personal opinion I know, though I don't think of them as being desirable. A car that soccer mums want isn't something that I want.  And just because they look big on the outside doesn't mean they have a lot of room inside. I have asked many women why they like those big tanks and the most common answer is that they like to sit up high. I never hear anything mentioned about the car itself.
My partner was talked into buying a Mazda CX9 by her son as "great to ferry around the grandkids" . 30's something talk for I can't afford it so you buy it mum. She hates it and takes our 357,000 km 2004 Mazda 6 sport in preference every time she can. Even with reverse camera she hates trying to find a parking space. In the main street of Bowral you almost have time to hop out and buy a sandwich while some of the fairer sex struggle to park their larger SUVs in the marked spaces. Inside as you say there is no so much room and access to the third row of seats is definitely only for the more agile. And loaded up with the tribe there is very little luggage space. In truth, it is just a big luxo cruise truck with a 3.7 litre V6 that is very thirsty around town (usually around 16 l/100km at the best) but you can't rock up to pony with your horse float behind a car or ute. Just not done. Admin. Probably time to move this to a "tow cars and trailers" thread with two results. Stops cluttering up the MTC thread and could provide some interesing and informative discussion on the suggested thread
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Re: MR2 Australia Trackday Challenge 2015/ MTC 2015. 12th-13th January. 34 Entries confirm
2015/01/25 13:01:25
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+1 for diesel. If Holden opened their eyes and produced a diesel Commodore I would buy one in a heartbeat.
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Re: MR2 Australia Trackday Challenge 2015/ MTC 2015. 12th-13th January. 34 Entries confirm
2015/01/25 13:03:09
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Yes Highlander, let's stop talking about tow cars and resume talking about the event. I love that 2nd photo, B24. With my creative eye, I can see a logo going onto that one and being the photo we use to promote MTC 2016!
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Re: MR2 Australia Trackday Challenge 2015/ MTC 2015. 12th-13th January. 34 Entries confirm
2015/01/25 13:03:14
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Admin +1 for diesel. If Holden opened their eyes and produced a diesel Commodore I would buy one in a heartbeat.
There will be one in a couple of years. FWD and a rebadged opel. Not so good for towing.
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Re: MR2 Australia Trackday Challenge 2015/ MTC 2015. 12th-13th January. 34 Entries confirm
2015/01/25 13:10:22
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While I am at it. Steve has had almost two weeks rest since MTC2015. Have searched the site and can't find dates and details for MTC 2016 anywhere. Time to get going mate. You should be ready to cope with the stress again by now.
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Re: MR2 Australia Trackday Challenge 2015/ MTC 2015. 12th-13th January. 34 Entries confirm
2015/01/25 13:58:20
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Highlander While I am at it. Steve has had almost two weeks rest since MTC2015. Have searched the site and can't find dates and details for MTC 2016 anywhere. Time to get going mate. You should be ready to cope with the stress agian by now.
While I'm waiting patiently for details of MTC2016, i can appreciate that Steve has other things to catch up on... Like getting his own car going. I wish i lived closer so i could assist him in some way. It's a huge job that he does, organising MTC, and he does it pretty much by himself. I hope there are some people living closer that might be able to assist him organising next years event. I'm hoping to bring my partner next year as a volunteer to help out. I can't imagine how much time Steve spends on MTC each year, but i do really appreciate it, so if there's anything i can do to assist from here, i would be glad to help.
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Re: MR2 Australia Trackday Challenge 2015/ MTC 2015. 12th-13th January. 34 Entries confirm
2015/01/25 14:01:36
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I own a Mercedes and I owned BMWs try to buy one around 10yrs old this is where best depreciation cycle is and normally one owner who cares for it. I give this advice as I worked for Mercedes and I sold BMW as well. Do not buy from a small car yard. They are normally the rejects from the main car yards which they will not put on there lots. Hope this Helps.
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