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RED TOP Beams BGB Compression min max spec in psi?

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2013/09/02 15:25:15 (permalink)
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RED TOP Beams BGB Compression min max spec in psi?

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I have searched high and low and have found so many speculative answers for a Red top.
 
I have 178 psi on all four cylinders warm, TB wide open, injectors still firing new red top swop.
 
Any advice appreciated

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    just_ace
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    Re: RED TOP Beams BGB Compression min max spec in psi? 2013/09/02 15:51:56 (permalink)
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    Hmm, can give you the gen3 specs. With regards to comp tests, in general your just checking for a large difference between the cyl's as comp testers themselves can be inaccurate.

    Id have thought a redtop would be over 200psi tho.
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    Re: RED TOP Beams BGB Compression min max spec in psi? 2013/09/02 16:00:55 (permalink)
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    Compression value to compression ratio is not exactly linear, think it also depends on volume so it may not be that much higher than a 3sge

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    Re: RED TOP Beams BGB Compression min max spec in psi? 2013/09/02 17:18:35 (permalink)
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    Yeh, I jst have a vague memory of na 3sges being over 200psi, but ill check my bgbs when I get home. Vaguely remember gtes being 160-180ish.

    But my memory likes to play tricks on me.
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    Re: RED TOP Beams BGB Compression min max spec in psi? 2013/09/02 17:21:28 (permalink)
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    If you ask on the beams forum, mandalay(or one of the others with the beams bgb cd) should be able to post pics from the bgb relevant pages.
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    Re: RED TOP Beams BGB Compression min max spec in psi? 2013/09/02 18:07:24 (permalink)
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    According to a spec sheet I saw, the Gen 2 3sge comp ratio is 10:1, Gen3 3sge is 10.3:1, and 3sge BEAMS is 11:1.
     
    But I've noticed that even though the gen3 has a higher comp ratio, the service manuals for the 3sge Gen2 and Gen3 motors both show the same the comp test figure (178 PSI or more) which coincidentally is the same as what you got.
     
    I don't have a BEAMS manual, but as ace says test gauges can vary.
    The main thing is to have only small variations between cylinders, but if you're worried about maybe it try another gauge.
     
     
     

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    Re: RED TOP Beams BGB Compression min max spec in psi? 2013/09/02 20:26:52 (permalink)
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    Thanks Guys LEt me PM MAndalay for a response

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    Re: RED TOP Beams BGB Compression min max spec in psi? 2013/09/02 20:50:27 (permalink)
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    Bgb says 192psi or more for gen3
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    Re: RED TOP Beams BGB Compression min max spec in psi? 2013/09/02 20:55:57 (permalink)
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    Thanks, well I may be in trouble then, strange engine looked so clean and looks like genuine low km. Even had original T belt. Never know how long it sat in warehouse waiting for a buyer (had cut harness and no ECU), rings maybe sticking to pistons. The pressure of all 4 is very similiar.

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    Re: RED TOP Beams BGB Compression min max spec in psi? 2013/09/02 21:17:04 (permalink)
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    Some loss in comp is excpected. If it doesnt use excessive oil or blow smoke I wouldnt be too concerened.

    If you want to confirm condition of engine you need to do a leak down test.
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    Re: RED TOP Beams BGB Compression min max spec in psi? 2013/09/03 09:56:51 (permalink)
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    As ACE stated they are the same 1.32 - 1.08 min.
    One the first engine i built with all OEM  i did get nearly 200psi but the point being that all the cylinders were nearly the same. IIRC there was only 1 psi difference in spread.
     
    Thats all you have to be concerned about.
     
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