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2013/06/07 14:28:17 (permalink)
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What compression ratio should I run?

I have just assembled my block with forged ross pistons and eagle rods.
I have measured the volume of the head and the volume above the piston at TDC with a sheet of perspex and syringing oil in.
So I have made a quick compression ratio calculator to help determine the head gasket I should get. It uses volume at BDC/ Volume at TDC. I have attached a pic of the excel sheet if you'd like to see.
 
So my question is basically, what Compression Ratio should I be aiming for? 
Block is 1mm oversize, gen3 head, ported, 1mm oversize valves, GT3076R with 0.82 A/R, Haltec ECU and W2A intercooler. 
Thanks
 
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    MR2QIK
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    Re: What compression ratio should I run? 2013/06/07 16:24:30 (permalink)
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    What fuel are you planning to run?

    For higher boost strategy on pump fuel - 8.5:1
    For better response & E85 I'd go with 9:1

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    Re: What compression ratio should I run? 2013/06/07 17:14:29 (permalink)
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    1mm OS in a 3s block? Id go 9:1 and keep boost lower.
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    Re: What compression ratio should I run? 2013/06/07 17:21:30 (permalink)
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    With that turbo on pump, I'd rather 8.5 & more boost so the tarby's in its efficiency range. One thing myself & Hitman noticed with my motors over the years is they respond better to more timing, boost & lower comp when on pump 98.

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    Re: What compression ratio should I run? 2013/06/07 18:04:25 (permalink)
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    BP ultimate will be what's used, E85 isn't around where I am. Yes 3S block
    A 1.676mm will get me 8.63:1
    A 1.778mm will get me 8.57:1
    A 1.905mm will get me 8.48:1
    This are all based off my volume measurements being exact, which they wont be but should be close enough.
    Thanks again
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    Re: What compression ratio should I run? 2013/06/08 12:57:59 (permalink)
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    Either of the first 2. Too small a difference between em.

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    Re: What compression ratio should I run? 2013/06/08 18:07:40 (permalink)
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    As above.  Obviously something to note is that compression ratio given on pistons is with standard headgasket thickness (~1.4mm?).  You've done it the right way and measured everything up, but for others your compression ratio may actually be higher then what your pistons are designated at if you are running a 1 or 1.1mm gasket.  I had planned on running E85 and was going to run around 9.5:1 CR.  BTW, I have found a few things off my car that you may want or need.  I have the front plastic trim from above the radiator, I have some wheel arch plastic liner here as well, not sure if it was from my car or another wreck I have had?  Umm, what else was there, I think one of the plastic cups from in the door trims.  I've been throwing everything I think may have come off to the car to one side.  Let me know what you want me to do with it.
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    Re: What compression ratio should I run? 2013/06/08 18:13:23 (permalink)
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    Agree also. Mines even lower than that, but i don't think you should go as low these days with the slightly better fuel quality we now have in Australia.
     
     
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    Re: What compression ratio should I run? 2013/06/16 10:43:23 (permalink)
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    Dylmrt is going to set me up with a Cometic for a good price.
    My other option for the thickness I need is Apexi, at about double the price.
    Is Apexi HG worth the extra $? 
     
    Totenkopf, if you have room just leave them to the side if you can and we can work some way of getting them if I need them. I never let you know, the car came off the truck fine, a little scrape when going down as i was sitting in it. I haven't done any work on the car yet, just been building this engine for it while studying for exams. 
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    Re: What compression ratio should I run? 2013/06/16 10:59:58 (permalink)
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    Dywer, I'm guessing that you bought James mr2?  If you did, good work mate - good to see its gone to another mr2 enthusiast.. I was thinking about it but just didnt have the time or money at the time.

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    Re: What compression ratio should I run? 2013/06/16 11:30:15 (permalink)
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    Thanks Mate, yeah I can't wait to get the time to put it together. But need to sell my Yellow one now. 
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    Re: What compression ratio should I run? 2013/06/16 19:00:57 (permalink)
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    The APEXI race gasket? if so i have that. It is nice but i am sure the Cometic works just as well.
     
     
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    Re: What compression ratio should I run? 2013/08/23 15:18:36 (permalink)
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    I received my HG today. 
    I ordered the 1.8mm to get the 8.5:1 CR, as I can only get 98 pump and would like to put the boost up a bit.
    But I got sent the wrong one. With this my CR would be just over 8.8:1
    Is this going to be an issue or should I ask to get the correct one sent to me? I dont mind waiting, just a bit of a hassle.
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    Re: What compression ratio should I run? 2013/08/23 16:51:10 (permalink)
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    bit of a side note for you mate, in reference to the plastics from james, I am driving up to bris in Oct and again over xmas, if you want I can bring them back down with me, as early next year, round feb-april, i will be in vic for a course for work if you want me to bring them over to you, if you are in no rush for them?
     
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    Re: What compression ratio should I run? 2013/08/23 23:34:57 (permalink)
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    beagle, thanks for that, that sounds like a good plan, gets them a long way closer either way. I'll PM you my contact details
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