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Re:MR2 Trackday Challenge 2014
2014/01/18 07:18:42
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Re:MR2 Trackday Challenge 2014
2014/01/18 08:53:41
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Who will be the Chilli burger challenger next year? It is tradition after all..... If Steves "lamp" isn't running he has to eat one ;)
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Re:MR2 Trackday Challenge 2014
2014/01/18 12:12:38
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I not playing the chilli burger challenge! Leave that to the madmen. Here are a few photo's I like from the trackday. It was a blessing my car was out of the running or we may have never enjoyed the photo's from the top of the hill. As I have done the last two events, I will again be asking for some people to run around and provide photography services. It will involve access to all parts of the track as Anthony/Tom and myself did. The top of the hill is one of the most exciting places to watch and photograph the cars. They are not very quick but you are very close and there is great undulation with plenty of option to take shots of the cars with plenty of attitude and a brilliant backdrop of the mountains. I think some video camera's set up would also bring it alive in 2015. Thanks for the comments on the regularity. Its great to see people understand why its there and the motivation it has produced. Exactly why its there. There is a view the regularity is too aggressive the scoring system but this is not true. If someone came off during the ho lap shoot out, this would have been just as disastrous. You could loose from 4-40 seconds by coming off during the hot lap shootout so there are two events which require more from the driver than the car. Still, I will have a look at scoring system to see what I can do but it will not be fastest car wins MTC. It will be a combination of driver skill, patience, consistency, preparation before the car rules the event or there will be no chance for 75% of the entrants which is not they way its meant to be. Some of my favorite photo's  
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Re:MR2 Trackday Challenge 2014
2014/01/18 12:16:29
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Re:MR2 Trackday Challenge 2014
2014/01/22 15:00:36
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Glen, what spring rates are you using now? I remembered that they are a bit stuff right?
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Re:MR2 Trackday Challenge 2014
2014/01/22 15:36:18
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Steve (B24) - Luke just sold his little baby poo coloured Toyota Corolla. He is just purchased a 1985 Toyota Corona & is fitting a Blacktop Beams engine in with manual gearbox. Look out for little rocket in 2015 MTC.
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Re:MR2 Trackday Challenge 2014
2014/01/22 20:18:44
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Jliu015 Glen, what spring rates are you using now? I remembered that they are a bit stuff right?
I'm not sure. I haven't taken them out and had them measured. I intend on doing it in the next couple of months.
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Re:MR2 Trackday Challenge 2014
2014/01/22 20:28:14
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Hi Steve, "there will be no chance for 75% of the entrants which is not they way its meant to be". If there are enough classes, then anyone has a chance of winning the whole event. Regularity gives the slower drivers a chance to get points and the shootout gives the fastest drivers an equivalent chance to get points. All other points are earned by doing well in your particular class in each session. The fastest cars won't have an advantage. A driver that does well in regularity and wins his class in every session is likely to win the whole event even if he is in the unmodified street class. I still recommend that each session whether it is regularity, shootout or hill climb etc. should be scored evenly. Consistent performances in your class will ensure that you are in the running to win the whole event. If all of the sessions were like a rally then yes use time differences to do the scoring. Because our event is a mixture of pure shootout and "time difference" sessions like regularity, you can't mix and match. This is why each session needs to be scored evenly.
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Re:MR2 Trackday Challenge 2014
2014/01/22 21:29:10
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Re:MR2 Trackday Challenge 2014
2014/01/24 11:16:12
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Very cool. In 2015 the classes will be opened up to 'Toyota' powered cars and Toyota bodied cars with alternative drive trains'. The Corolla (and the Beams BMW) will be eligible for Modified street . A Honda powered MR2 would also be eligible for Modified street or a 1UZ corolla! Look forward to seeing it in 2015.
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Re:MR2 Trackday Challenge 2014
2014/01/24 11:43:16
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Admin Hi Steve, "there will be no chance for 75% of the entrants which is not they way its meant to be". If there are enough classes, then anyone has a chance of winning the whole event. Regularity gives the slower drivers a chance to get points and the shootout gives the fastest drivers an equivalent chance to get points. All other points are earned by doing well in your particular class in each session. The fastest cars won't have an advantage. A driver that does well in regularity and wins his class in every session is likely to win the whole event even if he is in the unmodified street class. I still recommend that each session whether it is regularity, shootout or hill climb etc. should be scored evenly. Consistent performances in your class will ensure that you are in the running to win the whole event. If all of the sessions were like a rally then yes use time differences to do the scoring. Because our event is a mixture of pure shootout and "time difference" sessions like regularity, you can't mix and match. This is why each session needs to be scored evenly.
I understand your point and have taken it on board. I will spend some time to review it and see if can be refined. As much as it has effected the results of a few people by not being successful in the regularity, others proved they were effective with their results which allowed them to climb through the ranks. The trackday challenge is more than 'the fastest car wins'. As I said before, the goal for the event is about developing people from a novice to a regular, to a pro driver in perfecting everything available, exposure to what they can do in the motorsport fraternity. This has been achieved by opening everyone's eyes to how damn hard regularity is, the stress of a one lap shoot out (if you came off in a one lap shoot out, it would have been worse than the regularity scoring) and the demands of the hill climbs. Point: If the regularity was to add your times within a second of your nominated time, the scores would have be even worse for most people. At the end of the day, people will now work to perfect their average times, be aware of their laps times next time they go driving, think hard and long at how to beat this task. Its not a bad thing. Yes its tough and demanding with a lot of risk, but that's what its all about. I am sure if everyone was up to speed with the regularity it would have been a different result but people did not do their home work. No doubt, they will before 2015.
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Re:MR2 Trackday Challenge 2014
2014/01/24 12:36:34
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B24 Very cool. In 2015 the classes will be opened up to 'Toyota' powered cars and Toyota bodied cars with alternative drive trains'. The Corolla (and the Beams BMW) will be eligible for Modified street . A Honda powered MR2 would also be eligible for Modified street or a 1UZ corolla! Look forward to seeing it in 2015.
That sounds like the business. Yeah, no auto pilot buttons!!!
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Re:MR2 Trackday Challenge 2014
2014/01/24 14:35:39
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No dramas about the results from this year. Let's concentrate on how we can work out the best scoring system for next year. I like your idea for Toyota powered cars etc. I have been wondering if we should have a non Toyota invitational class that has a trophy though doesn't participate in the overall event result. I would like to see only mr2s in the top 3 overall. It is a mr2 event after all and not a general track day...... Thoughts?
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Re:MR2 Trackday Challenge 2014
2014/01/25 11:15:45
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Admin, I have been focused on next year before 2014 had finished! Everything you have mentioned has been taken onboard and I will decide on something in the near future. A major point is : Having other makes is ok but having AWD cars against our cars is not. This will change in 2015. Other points : - Regularity will stay
- A pro photographer will be chauffeured about for optimum photo's
- If numbers exceed the garage allocation, people can bring a gazebo to double stack the garages if they do not wish to use the open garages
- MR2 NSW will be managing a show and shine and will be given cruise sessions.
- If I can work in a two heat/ 5 lap race on the second day, I will do this. It will not be part of MTC
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Re:MR2 Trackday Challenge 2014
2014/01/25 11:45:24
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Sounds great Steve. Thanks again for putting so much effort into these events
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