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Re:Grey smoke 2012/12/04 22:25:00 (permalink)
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Could it be that the pcv is causing the whole problem? But with the amount of oil below the turbo you would think that it must be leaking the exhaust side.
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Re:Grey smoke 2012/12/05 12:25:17 (permalink)
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If it were leaking on the hot side then you will see a lot of oil around the dump pipe gasket,
 
An easy test for the PCV is to vent the pcv / rocker cover line to the atmosphere instead of back into the intake, if there is not a lot of pressure coming out of the PCV then chances are it is blocked as the 3S has a fair amount of blow by, you should be able to feel a fair amount of pressure coming out of the rocker cover breather.
 
I personally don't think it would be the PCV, if it was blocked the engine would smoke more on higher revs from the increased pressure.

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Re:Grey smoke 2012/12/05 12:45:08 (permalink)
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Maybe try removing the oxygen sensor and shine a light in the hole to look for burnt oil. When my turbo died it was all white inside the downpipe and back of the turbo.
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Re:Grey smoke 2012/12/05 20:26:43 (permalink)
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Had a better look, the leak is definitely on the dump pipe side. Looks like its time to rebuild it.. Is there any thread that goes thru how to do it or anything or has anyone got any tips? Or is it self explainitory once the turbo is off? This is my first turbo car haha.

Also took the hose off and the pressure wasn't that high, about as much pressure as you blow out of you mouth.
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Re:Grey smoke 2012/12/06 07:13:56 (permalink)
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i've had this problem on lots of 3SGTE's and its almost always the turbo seal.
it is a tiny piston ring and they often get gummed up with carbon. in about 50% of cases these days, the housing where it runs is worn out and has to be bored out and an oversized ring fitted. any competent turbo shop will do this, or we have reco ones on the shelf.
 
 
 

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Re:Grey smoke 2012/12/06 12:34:22 (permalink)
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Yeah that makes sense. Thanks.
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Re:Grey smoke 2012/12/11 00:07:14 (permalink)
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What's a rough pricing for that to get done? Going to get a price tomorrow hopefully, just want to know if they are ripping me off as I have no idea.

Or would I be better off getting a second hand CT20 over rebuilding my CT26 with T04E wheel?
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Re:Grey smoke 2012/12/11 09:28:04 (permalink)
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a rebuild/hiflow/new wheel will most likely cost you more than a second hand 'CT20b', not to mention laggier.

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Re:Grey smoke 2012/12/11 13:31:36 (permalink)
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Hmmm might just get a quote and if its too much get a CT20
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Re:Grey smoke 2012/12/11 13:41:15 (permalink)
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How much play is in the turbo? if its very minimal I might be able to help you with a cheap rebuild,
 
Also if you wanting to upgrade I will be selling my high flowed ct26 in a few weeks.

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Re:Grey smoke 2012/12/11 14:00:44 (permalink)
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I have no idea how much play it has, never had a look.

Mine is hi-flowed, has yours been rebuilt recently? I got a quote, $450 to $650.
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Re:Grey smoke 2012/12/11 14:19:52 (permalink)
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Mine has had a full rebuild including machining for larger seals, new shaft / turbine wheel and is hight flowed with a 57 trim garrett wheel,I did the rebuild and all the machine work and balancing was done by rotomaster distribution,
 
I am only going to sell it as im upgrading to a Garrett GTX3071r,

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Re:Grey smoke 2012/12/11 15:54:27 (permalink)
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How much would you want for it? Only problem though is that I want it fixed ASAP.

What would be some options for aftermarket ones which dont cost heaps which bolt straight on?
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Re:Grey smoke 2012/12/11 15:58:44 (permalink)
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"aftermarket" and "bolt straight on" doesnt happen mate
maybe hit up dylmrt for a factory 3sgte turbo
 

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Re:Grey smoke 2012/12/11 16:00:55 (permalink)
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Or at least bolt on without too much trouble haha?
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