adisco
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Aim: 200kw@wheels genII
Hey guys.
I need opinions of what is the best way to achieve approximately 200 rear wheel killowats.
Car: 1991 gen2
Current mods: Full exhaust, hd clutch, ct20 turbo, upgraded intercooler, apexi intake, boost T & boost cut defender running 15psi.
Aim: to achieve 200kw, car will be driven daily with small amount of thrashing, no track work.
Opinions on where to go on from here would be appreciated so go for it pls!
Also two questions: -is emanage ultimate good enough? -can ct20 achieve 200rwkw?
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Re:Aim: 200kw@wheels genII
2012/10/29 13:40:17
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Do you know how much power it is currently putting out? You'll definately need to change the stock fuel pump and stock 440cc injectors.
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Re:Aim: 200kw@wheels genII
2012/10/29 13:58:41
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mates track car put out 215 on a ct20... but it MAY have been high flowed, i'm not 100% sure. the power primer gives you a good idea of the limits of each area.. fuel, air and ignition.
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Re:Aim: 200kw@wheels genII
2012/10/29 14:03:06
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As is, with the car running rich, the car made 165kw.
-what kw do the injectors max out roughly (what are the standard injectors good enough for kw wise?) What injectors are good enough for 200kw?
-same question for fuel pump as im not sure weather or not the fuel pump is standard/aftermarket? What pump is recommended?
Cheers mate
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Re:Aim: 200kw@wheels genII
2012/10/29 14:30:12
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CT20b's can make that power but they're pretty much at their limit. Injectors you want to run the 540cc gen3 ones as a minimum, and fuel pump a walbro 255lph one should do the job. We sell the walbros for $115 each (fitting kits not included).
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Re:Aim: 200kw@wheels genII
2012/10/29 14:41:43
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^ what he said I'm at my limit too with my setup. GEN3, CT20b, Walbro, PFC, Boost controller, Air filter, Trust IC,
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Re:Aim: 200kw@wheels genII
2012/10/29 15:28:10
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Too **** good. Time to make a wish list. I also read that the pump is a bit of a tricky job. See how we go!
Ecu wise, greddy ultimate OKAY?
Thx guys appreciate the help
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Re:Aim: 200kw@wheels genII
2012/10/29 15:42:34
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I think DVST8R runs that ECU and makes well over 200, so i'd say you'll be fine with that one. Dylan?
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Re:Aim: 200kw@wheels genII
2012/10/29 15:45:08
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PUMP is a PITA. if your going for a Aftermaket ECU then better to go standalone rather than piggyback. 165kw for stock ecu is pretty good for all those mods.
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Re:Aim: 200kw@wheels genII
2012/10/29 16:05:13
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darius I think DVST8R runs that ECU and makes well over 200, so i'd say you'll be fine with that one. Dylan? DVST8R has a Haltech now, and about 230kw. I can't remember what he had before, but eManage does ring a bell, and he did have about 200kw before.
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Re:Aim: 200kw@wheels genII
2012/10/29 16:11:47
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you CAN fuel 200rwkw with the stock pump but it's got to be close to its limit. i use the stock pump and 800CC injectors and i might get away with it cause bigger injectors means i don't need as much fuel pressure.... but if the pump dies im screwed.... part f why i wanted A/F ratios at the dyno day.
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Re:Aim: 200kw@wheels genII
2012/10/29 16:36:27
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My pump might be already upgraded so i might chuck it on the dyno and see how we go once the tuning starts?
Gen 3 injectors, are they straight swap? Anyone got any they want to get rid of.. Worth a try.
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Re:Aim: 200kw@wheels genII
2012/10/29 16:41:08
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robk
darius I think DVST8R runs that ECU and makes well over 200, so i'd say you'll be fine with that one. Dylan?
DVST8R has a Haltech now, and about 230kw. I can't remember what he had before, but eManage does ring a bell, and he did have about 200kw before.
Thanks Rob, i knew something didn't look right there. i think he was making 201 with the eManage, 230 is the haltech + Bigger turbo + fans on the engine lid i seem to remember, can't find his build thread.
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Re:Aim: 200kw@wheels genII
2012/10/31 11:18:33
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Might be a good idea to have your gen2 fuel rail bored out larger as well if your going for larger injectors and pump. A few people recommend it based on some testing done a while ago from Wolfkatz Engineering. I think Road and track in QLD do this.
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Re:Aim: 200kw@wheels genII
2012/10/31 13:16:11
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Probably not going to see 200rwkws these days on a CT20b. Things are old and dont like being pushed that hard. 190ish is more realistic.
Fuel pumps only a pain if you do not have hoist access.
215rwkws on a stock turbo is either a good highflow or a bolt on upgrade like a K1 or similar.
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