stuka
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Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:27 AM
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Brake Master Cylinder Upgrade
Im planning on removing the ABS system from my tarmac rally SW20. I'll also be upgrading to gen3 brakes initially with the potential to go bigger later on. as I will be removing the ABS master cylinder, what is a sensible replacement/upgrade that will future proof my braking options? thanks. Pat
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Re:Brake Master Cylinder Upgrade
Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:51 AM
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you after something more than the late model BMC and booster?
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Re:Brake Master Cylinder Upgrade
Tuesday, October 09, 2012 11:31 AM
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ur gonna want a 4runner master cylinder mate, massive difference thats without braided brake lines, so add d lines to the mix and a late model booster and ur set
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Re:Brake Master Cylinder Upgrade
Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:15 PM
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Im just after a sensible upgrade that I just need to do once irrespective of the brakes I end up with if that is possible. tipsiduece do you have the 4runner setup?
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Re:Brake Master Cylinder Upgrade
Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:00 AM
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Gen3 or 4runner 1 inch bore master cylinder with the latest booster you can find (thats the biggest difference)
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Re:Brake Master Cylinder Upgrade
Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:02 AM
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Someone I sold a gen 3 BMC to lately just wanted the cylinder and is selling the booster IRRC?
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Re:Brake Master Cylinder Upgrade
Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:20 AM
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i also have a late model booster for sale, from B24's car when he first got it, so 96 i believe.
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Re:Brake Master Cylinder Upgrade
Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:24 AM
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no i dont but my mates duece has it fitted recently -3sgeTurbo- best to pm him about it. he has yet to change the booster lines etc. made a massive improvement just by changing the BMC , both stopping distance and pedal feel
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Re:Brake Master Cylinder Upgrade
Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:08 PM
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jonathan can you hold that booster for me? I'll send you a PM
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Re:Brake Master Cylinder Upgrade
Friday, October 12, 2012 1:34 AM
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Stuka I would highly recomment the 1" 4 Runner master upgrade, I have done it to my 1990 MR2 with GEN III brake setup and the feel of the pedal is fantastic.
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Re:Brake Master Cylinder Upgrade
Friday, October 12, 2012 2:14 AM
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Re:Brake Master Cylinder Upgrade
Friday, October 12, 2012 2:17 AM
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Nope that is the old cast iron one, I never found the right one on eBay, but I do have the make and models of all the cars that came out the 1" master.
I will post the pics up today also showing the install for future referance.
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Re:Brake Master Cylinder Upgrade
Friday, October 12, 2012 6:53 AM
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Toyota 4 bolt M/C's can be easily swapped between the models but you should replace an ABS with an ABS model, or vice versa for non-ABS.
Be aware that ABS and non-ABS M/C's have different pipe outlets, and they appear to also have different push rod depths.
(see pics of the 15/16" SW20 M/C)
BTW apart from the 4 Runner, Land Cruiser and Supra also used one inch bore M/C's
When Toyota changed to the larger brakes late '91 they also changed the booster.
Then they changed the booster again after 11/'93 with a more powerful one.
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Re:Brake Master Cylinder Upgrade
Friday, October 12, 2012 10:54 AM
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ok thanks for the heads up
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Re:Brake Master Cylinder Upgrade
Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:04 AM
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I have a 4 Runner master with 4 pot calipers. I don't think changing the booster would make a different with either pedal feel or braking performance.
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