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Re:Car stalling intermitently after fuel system upgrade and tuning
2012/08/06 18:16:17
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sorry, when taling about dedicated fan i was meaning at the dyno. they stick a fan infront of your rad, works fine for cars with FMIC's but mr2's need to have a fresh air source for the intercooler as well, like they would on the open road, not cooped up in a dyno garage.
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Re:Car stalling intermitently after fuel system upgrade and tuning
2012/08/06 19:50:27
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if getting ~170 rwkW with just an exhaust, dp, IC and CT20b on an unopened gen2, with the stock ECU has been done before then with proper AFR tuning and ignition (MAP ECU or otherwise), 200 rwkw should be easily attainable barring the fuel system can support it. We all know how horridly rich the stock tune is.
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Re:Car stalling intermitently after fuel system upgrade and tuning
2012/08/06 20:06:08
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~170....ok... but 225 isn't gonna come up by accident or good fortune. on a fresh, bored, gen 2 with spearco intercooler ct26, single JDM cat, 14psi, apexi intake and corrected fuelling i used to get 151rwkw..... the ct20b should get a bit more cause of the top end capability, but it's not gonna make 225... unless you put it on a dynojet or mustang dyno something... get it done on a dyno dynamics in shootout mode with a fan on the intercooler if you really want to know your numbers. big numbers get hard to achieve with the stock turbos cause they arent big enough to flow a LOT of air, and they get out of their efficiency range and blow hot air when pushed... which cause o the intercooling/air flow limitations on the mr2 makes a big difference.
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Re:Car stalling intermitently after fuel system upgrade and tuning
2012/08/06 20:08:42
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Power steering at straight ahead uses maybe 3-8amps. Power steering at full lock 30amp or more (uses 80A ABS fuse) You car is dying with full lock, i call that a major problem! Also cranking the car twice to get fuel pressure up, that also a problem that the tuner should fix, sounds like fuel pump isnt coming on with IGN. Take it back, get it fixed, they did a rubbish job.
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Re:Car stalling intermitently after fuel system upgrade and tuning
2012/08/06 20:26:40
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MRTurbo if getting ~170 rwkW with just an exhaust, dp, IC and CT20b on an unopened gen2, with the stock ECU has been done before then with proper AFR tuning and ignition (MAP ECU or otherwise), 200 rwkw should be easily attainable barring the fuel system can support it. We all know how horridly rich the stock tune is. with ringing the neck off said turbos. he's only running 14psi atm so with 14psi then there's no way it's currently 225kw. with 14psi and good tune and said mods, then 225hp/160-170kw sounds ok-ish for gen2. but don't forget the slight variance of dyno's and methods for doing the final power run and dyno setup with regards to air flow. stock gen2 cams and timing really suffocate the motor.
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Re:Car stalling intermitently after fuel system upgrade and tuning
2012/08/06 20:53:57
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i got 176kw on a forged gen 2 with a hiflow ct26, PFC, cooler, intake and exhaust with an ebay dump pipe with a supposedly hiflow cat on it running 14psi my intercooler fan wasnt working and intake temps skyrocketed ( i think it was around 60plus degrees) the intake temp. has a lot to do with how much power you make. and a puny sidemount with no aftermarket fan on it (or in my case fan not working) aint gonna cut the cheese. 170ish kw is the norm for a gen 2 running a ct26 on 14-15psi going by the yank forums. i think you need to fix the shutting off problem first then move to the next problem and solve it.
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Re:Car stalling intermitently after fuel system upgrade and tuning
2012/08/06 20:54:13
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Here's a video of it starting up showing the FPR you can hear it whine up after it starts cranking. And this was after doing some driving so it was only reading a bit above 40 but the other night when it was cold it was definately reading 60. And the tuner definately told me 60. So idk if it changes depending on the temp or not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE35sXmY_ZE
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Re:Car stalling intermitently after fuel system upgrade and tuning
2012/08/06 20:56:41
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Also there is a fan always running on the intercooler and 2 big spal fans on the engine lid
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Re:Car stalling intermitently after fuel system upgrade and tuning
2012/08/07 06:50:35
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purple5ive 170ish kw is the norm for a gen 2 running a ct26 on 14-15psi going by the yank forums. The yanks often use mustang or dynojet dyno's that are known to read pretty high though... agree completely on intake temps... my final dyno runs were done with 85degree inlet temps....... nasty.
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Re:Car stalling intermitently after fuel system upgrade and tuning
2012/08/16 17:24:36
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So I've been calling this shop back all the time since the day I got my car back and the guy is basicly avoiding me. He never answered the phone and is always "with a customer" or "working on a car" I understand they had to go to WTAC last week but still I've been calling all the time and I keep getting told he will call me back. All I wanna do is book my car back in for them to fix it and apparantly that's just too difficult. It's still having its issues but doesn't do it while driving anymore because I keep the revs up aroun slow turns and I've found out it isn't only turns the other night I sat in my car after starting it for about 10 min then turned on the lights and it died. From what I figure that's going wrong is that the rpms aren't adjusting for the extra power consumption when I use anything using more electricity. I'm assuming this all comes just down to the programming of the ecu. Although it has 2 times now that I go to start the car and it won't start. But I let the car sit for 4 days came back and it started right up.
I just spent 10 min on hold only to be told to call back at opening tomorrow. Let's hope he takes me call this time. If not I'm just gonna take the car there and just leave it there.
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Re:Car stalling intermitently after fuel system upgrade and tuning
2012/08/16 17:25:41
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And he still hasn't sent me the dyno sheet after telling me he would almost 2 weeks ago
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Re:Car stalling intermitently after fuel system upgrade and tuning
2012/08/16 18:08:49
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I would just turn up there and nicely tell them to fix the problem or your going to take it to the automotive ombudsman, or small buisness tribunal or whatever they are called. thats should get them going quick smart. make sure you have evidence of what the cars doing like videos etc, as we all know that when the mechanic checks it everythign will be hunkydory. cheers
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Re:Car stalling intermitently after fuel system upgrade and tuning
2012/08/21 09:12:44
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All fixed! I'm not sure exactly how to describe what was wrong but basicly when things like the power steering where on the bat voltage would go down to like 10v and the comp wasn't tuned for it to go that low or something like that. He showed me the screen and he changed some numbers from like 1.3 to 2 and it fixed it and so now hopefully all my car problems are over. And here's the dyno sheet. Sorry guys I don't know how I got the number I had I have a horrible horrible memory for numbers.
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Re:Car stalling intermitently after fuel system upgrade and tuning
2012/08/21 09:27:08
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Starts first go, everytime now?
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Re:Car stalling intermitently after fuel system upgrade and tuning
2012/08/21 10:28:58
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Its 247 HP not KW thats about 180ish Kw cheers
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