MRTurbo
SA Moderator
- Total Posts : 2894
- Scores: 81
- Reward points: 4791
- Joined: 2011/04/07 19:51:15
- Location: Adelaide SA Australia
- Status: offline
1990 SW20 GT 3S-GTE Targa 2001 Honda CBR600F4i 
|
MRVirgin
MR2 Aficionado
- Total Posts : 786
- Scores: 13
- Reward points: 2709
- Joined: 2011/04/07 19:51:15
- Status: offline
Re:Front Camber bolts SW20
2012/06/18 13:38:40
(permalink)
Very commonly used by the AE86/rolla guys. My BCs give me -1.2° camber which for my tyres is plenty. I had a digital inclinometer that I used to set the camber on a flat surface but that got stolen along with all of my other stuff. Provided you torque them up correctly and use some threadlocker there's nothing wrong with using these at all. Toyota actually make their own 'crash bolts' that are very decent from what I've heard.
You can also use the angle sensor in a smartphone to get a rough measurement with the right app. Tested back to back with my inclinometer my Galaxy S2 was accurate to within .1° but an iPhone 4 was within .05°.
But remember, the more negative camber you set the less rubber you have on the road for straight line braking. I'm going to get some camber/crash bolts at some point to even up the negative rear camber on mine, I think I had 0.7°/0.5° L/R.
|
nissky
MR2 Aficionado
- Total Posts : 285
- Scores: 11
- Reward points: 1854
- Joined: 2011/04/07 19:51:15
- Location: Sydney, NSW
- Status: offline
Re:Front Camber bolts SW20
2012/06/18 13:42:45
(permalink)
|
Reddtarga
MR2 Deity
- Total Posts : 2175
- Scores: 249
- Reward points: 5547
- Joined: 2011/04/07 19:51:15
- Location: Vic Australia
- Status: offline
Re:Front Camber bolts SW20
2012/06/18 13:55:55
(permalink)
The Toyota camber bolts are probably the best quality, and come in 3 different size apart from stock.
They have raised dots on the head to indicate relative size.
They are fairly cheap and I got mine from Twos'r'us but you could try the obvious local suppliers.
At 188 ft/lb I doubt if they would come loose, even without threadlocker.
|
MRTurbo
SA Moderator
- Total Posts : 2894
- Scores: 81
- Reward points: 4791
- Joined: 2011/04/07 19:51:15
- Location: Adelaide SA Australia
- Status: offline
Re:Front Camber bolts SW20
2012/06/18 14:16:50
(permalink)
Those Toyota ones are not adjustable though, so I'd probably need a few different sets by the sounds of it. I think id prefer to just rotate the bolt to get the desired camber changes :/
Also probably looking at less neg camber on rear to gain some more traction too.
1990 SW20 GT 3S-GTE Targa 2001 Honda CBR600F4i
|
EssDub
MR2 Deity
- Total Posts : 691
- Scores: 41
- Reward points: 2868
- Joined: 2012/02/09 18:06:20
- Status: offline
Re:Front Camber bolts SW20
2012/06/18 15:25:04
(permalink)
All that extra boost givin' you hassles now eh? :P
|
Mrskylighter
MR2 Deity
- Total Posts : 2156
- Scores: 174
- Reward points: 6592
- Joined: 2011/04/07 19:51:15
- Location: NSW Australia, Hills District
- Status: offline
Re:Front Camber bolts SW20
2012/06/18 15:33:56
(permalink)
|
MRVirgin
MR2 Aficionado
- Total Posts : 786
- Scores: 13
- Reward points: 2709
- Joined: 2011/04/07 19:51:15
- Status: offline
Re:Front Camber bolts SW20
2012/06/18 15:34:08
(permalink)
|
MRTurbo
SA Moderator
- Total Posts : 2894
- Scores: 81
- Reward points: 4791
- Joined: 2011/04/07 19:51:15
- Location: Adelaide SA Australia
- Status: offline
Re:Front Camber bolts SW20
2012/06/18 15:48:26
(permalink)
EssDub - no hassels, just gotta be careful in the wet lol
Mrskylighter - how cheap is cheap? :P
MRVirgin - that looks like the best solution, if only I could justify the costs :(
I downloaded an Andriod app called 'Camber gauge' and will take a baseline tonight. Seems to jump around a fair bit though so I couldn't really bank on it.
1990 SW20 GT 3S-GTE Targa 2001 Honda CBR600F4i
|
nissky
MR2 Aficionado
- Total Posts : 285
- Scores: 11
- Reward points: 1854
- Joined: 2011/04/07 19:51:15
- Location: Sydney, NSW
- Status: offline
Re:Front Camber bolts SW20
2012/06/18 15:57:40
(permalink)
Use a spirit level and some trig. Once you work out the maths takes no time, and very accurate :p
post edited by nissky - 2012/06/18 16:07:05
|
MRVirgin
MR2 Aficionado
- Total Posts : 786
- Scores: 13
- Reward points: 2709
- Joined: 2011/04/07 19:51:15
- Status: offline
Re:Front Camber bolts SW20
2012/06/18 16:08:49
(permalink)
If you're going to use your phone make sure you get a flat edge to chock up against the edges of your rims. Make sure you calibrate the software first. Car also has to be perfectly level. You can do this with vinyl floor tiles, a bucket of water, pvc tubing and a length of wood. Here's how you do it When I was in Sydney a mate and I spent the weekend doing the alignments on our cars, following the directions of those videos. My friend had his checked by a tyre shop and we were within 5% of where we wanted to be.
post edited by MRVirgin - 2012/06/18 16:14:08
|
Mrskylighter
MR2 Deity
- Total Posts : 2156
- Scores: 174
- Reward points: 6592
- Joined: 2011/04/07 19:51:15
- Location: NSW Australia, Hills District
- Status: offline
Re:Front Camber bolts SW20
2012/06/18 16:13:10
(permalink)
$20 shipped if I can find them? MRTurbo
EssDub - no hassels, just gotta be careful in the wet lol
Mrskylighter - how cheap is cheap? :P
MRVirgin - that looks like the best solution, if only I could justify the costs :(
I downloaded an Andriod app called 'Camber gauge' and will take a baseline tonight. Seems to jump around a fair bit though so I couldn't really bank on it.
|
MRTurbo
SA Moderator
- Total Posts : 2894
- Scores: 81
- Reward points: 4791
- Joined: 2011/04/07 19:51:15
- Location: Adelaide SA Australia
- Status: offline
Re:Front Camber bolts SW20
2012/06/18 16:15:09
(permalink)
Basically I'll be ordering a Whiteline front swaybar this week, so I'm aiming to introduce more negative camber to counteract the negative (understeer) effects of a stiffer swaybar. but then I've read this which kinda contradicts the above: "Unlike double wishbone type suspension, the MacPherson strut has an unfavorable camber curve, in that the camber does not increase linearly as the suspension is compressed. So as the car takes a corner and sets, the outside suspension is going to compress past the roll center and will go from a favorable increase in negative camber to start to lose the negative camber. When that happens the front end will lose grip rapidly. One of the solutions to alleviate this problem, is to deploy thicker front anti-roll bars to prevent the outside suspension component from compressing PAST the roll center and start to lose camber."
post edited by MRTurbo - 2012/06/18 16:23:26
1990 SW20 GT 3S-GTE Targa 2001 Honda CBR600F4i
|
MRTurbo
SA Moderator
- Total Posts : 2894
- Scores: 81
- Reward points: 4791
- Joined: 2011/04/07 19:51:15
- Location: Adelaide SA Australia
- Status: offline
Re:Front Camber bolts SW20
2012/06/18 16:26:10
(permalink)
sounds good, will fit the front of an SW20 right? see how it goes after this swaybar upgrade :P Mrskylighter
$20 shipped if I can find them?
1990 SW20 GT 3S-GTE Targa 2001 Honda CBR600F4i
|
Mrskylighter
MR2 Deity
- Total Posts : 2156
- Scores: 174
- Reward points: 6592
- Joined: 2011/04/07 19:51:15
- Location: NSW Australia, Hills District
- Status: offline
Re:Front Camber bolts SW20
2012/06/18 16:28:32
(permalink)
Yep will fit the front thats where I had them.
If you decide you want them just send me an email and I'll see if I can find them.
|