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2012/06/04 15:10:52 (permalink)
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86 Pricing is here.

Toyota released the pricing for the 86 this morning. It's certainly taken me by surprise, and is a far cry from the $50k+ that Toyota was demanding for the MR2 some 15 years ago! Today's pricing puts it almost in line with JDM pricing once you add the shipping costs and such.
 
The RRP for the GT is $29990 and the GTS is $35490.
 
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http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/driven-toyotas-30000-coupe-20120604-1zqv3.html
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    Re:86 Pricing is here. 2012/06/04 15:20:20 (permalink)
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    That's pretty reasonable. But no LSD in the GT?? or just the auto?

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    Re:86 Pricing is here. 2012/06/04 15:21:22 (permalink)
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    No LSD in the Auto GT.
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    Re:86 Pricing is here. 2012/06/04 15:32:02 (permalink)
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    i am so surprised by this pricing. PLAESANTLY!! It goes to show that it can be done, so a bout time other companies did a similar thing - produce a driver's car at a reasonable price, not taxi's at an expected price
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    Re:86 Pricing is here. 2012/06/04 15:48:12 (permalink)
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    Ah ok I wouldn't get an auto one anyway lol

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    Re:86 Pricing is here. 2012/06/04 20:40:41 (permalink)
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    Here is the full list of RRP prices
     
    GT Manual $29990
    GT Auto $32490
    GTS Manual $35490
    GTS Auto $37990
     
    I have no idea why anyone would pay more for a worse model i.e. auto
     
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    Toyota released the pricing for the 86 this morning. It's certainly taken me by surprise, and is a far cry from the $50k+ that Toyota was demanding for the MR2 some 15 years ago! Today's pricing puts it almost in line with JDM pricing once you add the shipping costs and such.

    The RRP for the GT is $29990 and the GTS is $35490.

    More at:
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    Re:86 Pricing is here. 2012/06/04 20:43:03 (permalink)
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    Because $2500 is less expensive and far less painful than a left knee replacement
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    Re:86 Pricing is here. 2012/06/04 20:47:44 (permalink)
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    I would think that would be a very low percentage of buyers worrying about their knee......
    It just seems strange that they offer an auto in a "drivers" car. I thought the same about the S15 200SX. I bought one of the last ones - the GT. I loved it and always thought the auto version was a waste of effort.

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    Re:86 Pricing is here. 2012/06/04 21:01:00 (permalink)
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    If it wasn't for an auto I couldn't drive an MR2 or any other car for that matter because of disability and no power in the left leg to operate the clutch.
    Auto's certainly have their place but it will be interesting to see what model and type the auto is. The one on the AW11 S/C I have is a great transmission and really suits the car, in fact in testing when they came out the auto S/C was quicker in a straight line than the manual.
    Toyota is obviously trying to appeal to as broad a market a possible, which is better than having a focus that is too narrow and thereby limiting appeal, and in the long term probably limiting the life of the model.
    It would be interesting to find out how many current MR2 drivers will be able to afford even the cheapest model, or intend to buy it.
    Toyota will apparently be using an S800 in some of their publicity shots with the 86 to talk up the sporting heritage, too bad they didn't use the MR2.

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    Re:86 Pricing is here. 2012/06/04 21:34:04 (permalink)
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    Have a look at the perctenage of Sciroccos Golf Rs and GTIs that are being sold with the DSG box. Maybe the marketing gurus at Toyota know something about making money. You can't buy a manual Polo GTI. You can't buy an auto Bluemotion Golf. And VW is losing sales in both these areas because of the lack of the alternative transmission, if you can believe the motoring news.
     
    As Tralfaz says, it's all about a broad market appeal. Toyota will watch the market carefully in deciding the manual/auto mix.  Lots of F86 buyers will buy it and never use its potential. At the advertised prices, it's going to be about the cheapest way to pose in a two seat sports car and there will be plenty who buy it just for that. Lots of buyers of the F86 will probably never have seen a clutch pedal.
     
    I only wish there was a six speed manual Aurion available for a 2GR swap into the MR2.
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    Re:86 Pricing is here. 2012/06/04 22:28:40 (permalink)
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    It is standard these days to offer both transmissions, and also depends on what it is. My brother has an "auto" 370Z and is certainly not a bad car because of it. Porsche sell a lot of PDK setups too, as it all comes down to how good the auto is. Lotus also recently released an auto for the elise.  I would say they will sell quite a few, but if they didn't offer it many ppl would walk away and find something else.
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    Re:86 Pricing is here. 2012/06/04 22:35:58 (permalink)
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    tralfaz
    Toyota is obviously trying to appeal to as broad a market a possible, which is better than having a focus that is too narrow and thereby limiting appeal, and in the long term probably limiting the life of the model.

    I disagree - having a real drivers car that only real drivers can drive would increase the appeal. Having a boring old auto as an option reduces the appeal IMO.
     
    I have a VE SV6 Commodore and sure the auto changes well and smoothly though it still changes AT THE WRONG TIME. This infuriates me.

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    Re:86 Pricing is here. 2012/06/04 23:15:28 (permalink)
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      I only wish there was a six speed manual Aurion available for a 2GR swap into the MR2.

     
    Yes, there is no 6 speed manual aurion, but the lotus 6 speed manual IS used in half a dozen toyota models around the world (albeit in various ratios). If you were dead serious about it, you could get a lotus flywheel and clutch kit, and the gearboxes you would be looking for are the EA60, EA62 and EA63

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    Re:86 Pricing is here. 2012/06/04 23:54:52 (permalink)
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    I disagree - having a real drivers car that only real drivers can drive would increase the appeal.

     
    What does a real driver look like? How do you qualify as a real driver? Can just imagine the Toyota salesman asking you for your "REAL DRIVERS LICENCE" before he wqas prepared to sell you your manual F86.
     
    Or does the simple ability to depress a cluch pedal and move a gear stick in an orderly fashion qualify you as a "real driver"?
     
     
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    Re:86 Pricing is here. 2012/06/05 04:42:49 (permalink)
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    From what I've heard of the auto box it's quite a good one. Certainly wouldn't be making any comparisons to a GM slushbox in a VE. I can understand why someone would buy one if it's going to be their everyday, unmodified toy car. Particularly if that person drives through bumper to bumper traffic regularly. Not what the car was meant for but who cares.
     
    Anyway what I'm going to be keeping a keen eye on is their depreciation over the next few years. Damned if I'm buying another new car and watching it depreciate from underneath me. This time someone else can take that hit and I'll buy their $15k 86 in 2016.
     
     
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