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D-Link DIR-645 or Netgear DGND3700?

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2012/05/29 12:54:54 (permalink)
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D-Link DIR-645 or Netgear DGND3700?

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I know there's a few IT dudes around here so I'm tossing up between these two modem-routers to replace my current Netcomm POS. I am mainly looking for the best wireless performance (range) and ADSL2+ sync speed, although nice features are a bonus! The D-Link is a bit cheaper and says it has "smart beam" technology to boost WiFi strength. The Netgear is a proper dual-band router, though.
 
D-Link DIR-645
 

 
Netgear DGND3700
 



 
Anyone use either of the above and can give any feedback on the performance etc.?
 
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    Re:D-Link DIR-645 or Netgear DGND3700? 2012/05/30 14:22:48 (permalink)
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    Can't comment on either but every D-Link piece of hardware I've bought has been a dog. Netgear is not too flash either but still ahead of a D-Link.
     
    Choose the Netgear because it has dual band support. You will only get a maximum of 130Mbit/s via wifi if you are stuck using 2.4GHz on 802.11n. The DIR-645 doesn't even have gigabit ethernet ports so good luck getting more than 100Mbps between your wired and wireless net :)
     
    One thing I must mention is an all in one solution like the DGND3700 will never be as good as a standalone product. I personally have a cheapo $30 TPLink ADSL modem that only does 1 thing - but it does the ADSL thing well. I can swap WiFi access point whenever I feel like without having to worry about ADSL issues.
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    Re:D-Link DIR-645 or Netgear DGND3700? 2012/05/30 14:37:43 (permalink)
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    Does that TPLink modem do IPv6? I've got a couple of old modems here but don't think they will do IPv6.
    Ideally I want to only run 1 box instead of 2 if I can.

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    Re:D-Link DIR-645 or Netgear DGND3700? 2012/05/30 14:40:24 (permalink)
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    I didn't give you the entire gist of the story. The TPLink modem is only working in bridged mode. I use an old PC as an Internet gateway and that handles IPv6.
     
    In the past I have had a similar configuration using a wireless router without built-in ADSL (Linksys WRT54G), hooked up to a modem in bridged mode. It worked well. What I'm hinting towards is that you'll find there is much more choice for a good performance unit if it does not contain built in ADSL, such as Apple Airport.
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    Re:D-Link DIR-645 or Netgear DGND3700? 2012/05/30 15:02:49 (permalink)
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    Ok in that case I should be able to run my old Siemens Speedstream in bridge mode, then use the (new) wireless router to handle PPPoE?
    It says the D-Link actually has Gigabit LAN/WAN and 2.4 gHz should support 300 mbps.
    http://files.dlink.com.au/Products/DIR-645/Datasheet/DIR-645_datasheet_01-AU.pdf

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    Re:D-Link DIR-645 or Netgear DGND3700? 2012/05/30 15:08:50 (permalink)
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    Sounds like a plan. I'm just warning you that you won't get the best performance using 802.11n on 2.4GHz. This is because to get maximum performance, the radio must be able to use 40MHz channels. The problem is, 40MHz takes up almost 80% of the entire 2.4GHz wireless band. You will get lots of interference for sure. 40MHz channels will work much better on the 5 GHz band.
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    Re:D-Link DIR-645 or Netgear DGND3700? 2012/05/30 15:22:27 (permalink)
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    Ah ok
    Well I probably wont be needing/running 5 GHz in any case as signal will be **** upstairs going through walls etc. Much rather use 2.4 for longer range. Besides, my laptop doesn't do 5Ghz anyway I don't think. Having said that I think there's too much 2.4 GHz pollution around my house.
    Still be better than dropping out and 802.11g which I have atm...

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    Re:D-Link DIR-645 or Netgear DGND3700? 2012/05/30 15:24:32 (permalink)
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    Make sure you buy a unit where the output power can be adjusted and antennas can be upgraded - make sure it has external antenna connectors. High gain omni-directional antennas can be had quite cheaply and do well to increase range.
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    Re:D-Link DIR-645 or Netgear DGND3700? 2012/05/30 15:41:23 (permalink)
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    ^well the reason I was looking at the D-Link was because of its "smart beam technology" that apparently works very well - Uses 6 antennas.
    "It uses no less than six multidirectional antennas which don't throw out wireless signal as a scattergun approach, but instead track and lock onto connected devices focusing beams in their direction. "
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    Re:D-Link DIR-645 or Netgear DGND3700? 2012/05/30 15:47:03 (permalink)
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    I don't like the sound of that so called "SmartBeam" technology. It just sounds like marketing terminology to me. Only 4 antennas are supported under 802.11n standard. This allows for 4 data streams, yielding a maximum of 600 Mbps using 40 MHz channels. 
     
    It is likely your laptop only supports 2 or 3 antennas anyway, meaning you will get 300 or 450Mbps in the best conditions.
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    Re:D-Link DIR-645 or Netgear DGND3700? 2012/05/30 16:10:22 (permalink)
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    Yeah neither do I but a few independent reviews said it wasn't a gimmick and it even challenged 5GHz units for speed! I guess they're more like multiple 'virtual' antennas rather than 6 physical ones. 

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