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Re:93 3sgte running rough/not idling. 2012/05/29 15:58:26 (permalink)
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ok, i just had a proper good look, and apparently I had it wrong all this time. It's a 1991 body, though I know it won't change much.
 
Can't confirm the SW20 I (JP) or not, but I'd be confident in that it is. Says nothing about it on the ECU, but I didn't check numbers.
 
Another Idea was that when checking the cold start injector thing, it read about 4.6ohms. My other engine was sitting on like 5.7ohms. A friend (Who posted/asked on ae86dc.com) mentioned that if thats wound down too far, it starves it of air, causing it to stall. If I adjust the 93 engine to suit the same ohmage as the 91, would that have any positive affect? Or is it better to just ignore that and go get an ECU? On that note, it says in the BGB that it should read between 2-4ohm. Why is it so much higher to start with?
 
If that option, should I go a nice aftermarket ECU? If yes, any suggestions?
 
Also, I really really do appreciate all the help you guys have been able to offer here. So thanks for taking a bit of time out to write some stuff down for me. The cars been off the road way too long for my liking and sanity, and it will be great to get it running again soon. : )
post edited by JamesJ - 2012/05/29 16:01:36
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Re:93 3sgte running rough/not idling. 2012/05/30 09:35:15 (permalink)
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Here is food for thought. Have you checked the throttle body sensor voltage when the throttle body is closed? This could also have an affect on the idle of the engine. There is an adjustment screw which enables you to twist the throttle body sensor, similar to distributor. Thats brings me to another point, have you checked the timing of the engine to ensure its correct? You need to get a wire and join 2 pins in the Diagnostics panel to set the engine to 10 Degree's, then using a timing light twist the distributor until the timing light shows the engine running at 10 degrees.
 
I can't remember if its on the Gen II or not (It is on the Gen III), but there is a little screw that adjusts where the throttle closes on the throttle body. I.e you can set the throttle so it sits slightly more open when on the return spring.
 
I wouldn't worry about a new ECU at this stage, you'll probably run into the same problems. The Toyota ECU is very safe to use to resolve these issues prior.
 
Have a look at these things, it shouldn't take too long and may fix your problems. 

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Re:93 3sgte running rough/not idling. 2012/05/30 21:58:25 (permalink)
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Yes that screw is on the Gen 2 as well.

Check those things, have a look at your ECU part number... match it with one thats listed in that picture and go from there.
Also, with the diagnostics bridged with a paperclip or wire (as PETE mentioned), see if it idles.
What that will test, is whether the engine is capable of running with all of its sensors at BASE ignition timing. 10 degrees.

Do you still have the other engine?
All of the physical components of both engines will be the same (well... near enough)
you could compare or swap out sensors if you wanted to. Just bear in mind that the TPS will need to be adjusted properly if you do that. 

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Re:93 3sgte running rough/not idling. 2012/06/01 21:20:52 (permalink)
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Ok, so on Tuesday it was still not idling at all. Would drop below 1k rpm and die. I went away for work for 3 days (Got back tonight) and had a mate come around. We were gonna have a look at some ideas posted here.
 
I decided to just try and start it and see how it went.
Somehow it just idled fine. Absolutely no problems. Revved up fine and everything. So I took it off the stands and went for a drive. Got halfway down the road and it died!
Pulled up the engine lid and saw the damn BOV had fallen off. I guess I forgot to tighten the **** properly.
So I rooted around, trying to find a 3mm allen key, and tightened it up properly. Hell yeah!
 
So in the space of 3 days, it just magically fixed itself. I have no idea how or what happened, but my car is now on the road.
 
So a big thanks to all the help posted here. Cheers guys. I'll see you on the roads soon!
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