Rizo
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What is the ideal MR Driving Style?
What is the ideal MR driving style. I'm told that MR cars are a completely different animal to FR cars, so I thought it would be an idea to get your opinions on what to watch out for and how you modified your driving style to overcome the supposed problems that a MR car can bring out in certain conditions.
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Re:What is the ideal MR Driving Style?
2012/04/18 18:02:06
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Snap oversteer is always the biggest catch for inexperienced MR drivers. Essentially, never back off in the middle of a turn, as that shifts the weight off the back, reducing the grip you have on the bum end causing you to spin.
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Re:What is the ideal MR Driving Style?
2012/04/18 18:19:10
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Are they more prone to aqua planing?
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Re:What is the ideal MR Driving Style?
2012/04/18 18:33:02
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As above, plus be very SMOOTH with all your inputs. Take it to a track and drive it there to learn its behaviour, where its a safe environment and you are unlikely tp cause damage. And its a lot of fun!! Cheers
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Re:What is the ideal MR Driving Style?
2012/04/18 18:44:56
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most obvious things i noticed when driving mine fast, is to brake hard going into a corner and accelerate hard out. go in too hot and it will just plow (understeer) across the road. i brake hard to put every possible gram onto the steering wheels, then get (and hold) the power down to keep the weight on the rears. if the corner continues on too long, i get going faster and faster until i feel the front end lighten up to the point of more understeer.. so usually best to know the road, and only feed on as much power as you need to keep the bum planted! get a fright and back off suddenly mid corner, and the rear end will swing out. biggest trap for me is unknown road with a sweeping bend that tightens up. its definitely, noticably, a unique layout for driving characteristics. i personally like it alot..
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Re:What is the ideal MR Driving Style?
2012/04/18 20:25:20
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RdSbiggest trap for me is unknown road with a sweeping bend that tightens up. +1. Had a couple of clenching moments on unfamiliar roads - definately worth being careful and not approaching the limit on any roads I don't know well. I also find being a bit aggressive in terms of steering into low speed corners helps with the understeer - applying more lock than I should, really trying to get the front to turn in, rather than gently applying lock (making sure all my braking has been done by this point). Then smoothness on the way out, putting power down and winding off lock. For higher speed corners, remembering that whatever speed I carry into the corner needs to be carried out of the corner as well... Driving style in the wet involves basically nannying the car through corners... James May in the last episode of the most recent series of Top Gear gives a good indication of the type of handling "quirk" you can expect with an MR2 ;) Having said that, it's very rewarding when driven well - but not really a car that can be used to do fulli sik dorifto in, at least not without ending up embarrassed or worse.
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Re:What is the ideal MR Driving Style?
2012/04/18 21:51:55
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Take it to a track and you'll very quickly figure it out for yourself! People can give you pointers on how they drive their mr2 but everyone has a different driving style. I find the mr2 has very good rear traction on corner exit so you can get on the gas early and hard. But I find in tighter corners you get strong understeer on exit if you're on the gas too hard. Best way to get around that (for me) is to get the tail out just a bit on the way in so it all balances itself out on the way out.
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Re:What is the ideal MR Driving Style?
2012/04/18 22:11:36
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When I read RDS and Esskay, I assume you're talking about the adubs, because I can relate with that, but not the same in the sw20. In tight corners, the AW11 is amazing, so easy to through around. Its also far less prone to snap oversteer than the SW20. I find the AW11 is far more predictable as well... but that might just be a function of the power.
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Re:What is the ideal MR Driving Style?
2012/04/19 09:54:11
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What understeer? the early SW20s had shorter rear suspension arms and toe out under deceleration, giving that quick rotation feeling around the centre of the car. I also haven't found my Rev1 to be THAT tail happy/'snap' oversteery at all, despite its reputation for being so. It's all about slower in and fast out of corners - feed the power in gradually THROUGH the corner, of course it'll understeer if you mash it suddenly. I guess from my experience with motorbikes, I AVOID lifting off/chopping the throttle in a corner which WILL bite you in the arse if you're pushing 9/10ths+ in an early MR2. On an unfamiliar road, I would normally try take it a bit easier but on a road with good visibility etc, I can drive it fast with confidence. The latter '93 on models had built in understeer under acceleration and Deceleration.
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Re:What is the ideal MR Driving Style?
2012/04/19 16:56:26
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I think the aw11 has a lower center of gravity to the sw20, so that might, dnt qoute me, make it more predictable compare to the sw20 and i do think the extra power and extra weight of the sw20 will make it different to drive aswell... But i also say, be gentle wen u back off mid corner on sharp ones, she will bite back.... Hahaha... I just love aw11s!!
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Re:What is the ideal MR Driving Style?
2012/04/19 17:09:58
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I think the shorter wheelbase of the AW11 helps as well.
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Re:What is the ideal MR Driving Style?
2012/04/19 17:39:19
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dylmrt
I think the shorter wheelbase of the AW11 helps as well.
Shorter wheelbase generally means more tricky to catch oversteer (track being equal), but more responsive to direction change. Cheers
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Re:What is the ideal MR Driving Style?
2012/04/19 17:59:41
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MRTurbo I also haven't found my Rev1 to be THAT tail happy/'snap' oversteery at all, despite its reputation for being so. It's all about slower in and fast out of corners - feed the power in gradually THROUGH the corner, of course it'll understeer if you mash it suddenly. I guess from my experience with motorbikes, I AVOID lifting off/chopping the throttle in a corner which WILL bite you in the arse if you're pushing 9/10ths+ in an early MR2. Must say I agree completely with what you're saying. I was quite apprehensive about driving my Rev1 due to all the talk about 'snap oversteer' but I've yet to have any serious moments from this. In fact I have sometimes been trying to make it happen to help learn the limits of the car. Most of my panic moments are usually me understeering on a tight corner. But I also learnt to go fast on sportsbikes before I ever had a quick car.. It might have more of an effect on driving style than you think.
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Re:What is the ideal MR Driving Style?
2012/04/19 18:50:25
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blacky83 But I also learnt to go fast on sportsbikes before I ever had a quick car.. It might have more of an effect on driving style than you think.
I rode motorcycles long before I owned a car, and I quickly learned about grip on different road surfaces, especially when pushing hard. You get into the habit of looking ahead to spot rough or wet surfaces, gravel etc, and I am sure that habit has saved me many times since.
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Re:What is the ideal MR Driving Style?
2012/04/19 19:56:59
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Totally agree with you guys. I owned a sportsbike just before I bought my MR2 and came from driving a slow FWD so there was a big difference. I found the limits of the 2 VERY quickly as it had pretty worn tyres when i bought it and one drive in the wet was enough lol. Motorbikes have definately made me a better driver though.
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