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Re:Hardtop sw20 - First time mr2 owner WA 2012/04/02 15:55:31 (permalink)
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yeh, JTW aren't the best mob. the motor's not form a 95. it's a rev1 gen2 so from 89-91.
 
what boost you running? if the turbo has been hiflowed it should pull thru over 6500rpm. stock ct26 and cams you'll notice a lack of power over 5500rpm.
 
go see wtfauto in kelmscott for specialist mr2 work. (ph63962140)
 
i wouldn't advise puching the stock 20yr gen2 motor to 300rwhp.
 
decent turbo to get you there is a gt2860rs. my freind with a gt4 recently had his gt4 engine rebuilt, 264 cams and gt2860 net him 277hp@16psi run in tune. you with only having to drive 2 wheels=less drivetrain loss. once he ups the boost he'll be @ 300hp with 20psi
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Re:Hardtop sw20 - First time mr2 owner WA 2012/04/02 16:32:08 (permalink)
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JTW - nice details on the invoice.
 
Hope everyone takes note of that.

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Re:Hardtop sw20 - First time mr2 owner WA 2012/04/02 18:08:06 (permalink)
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here is the actual receipt. If its a first gen that could cause an issue for me, as i just orded a set of silicon replacement hoses for 93-99 mode enginel. How different is the rev1 to later model with the rad hoses?
 
Turbo is set at 12psi at the moment, running a manual boost controller, but ill be swapping it out for an electronic one soon. I havent really payed much attention to the turbo as ive never been in a car with normal or highflowed, so i dont know the difference. when you say pull thru over 6500rpm, do you mean maintain 12psi over 6500rpm?
 
And MrTurbo, thanks for the link, going to follow some of the advice there on mod order
 

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Re:Hardtop sw20 - First time mr2 owner WA 2012/04/02 18:46:10 (permalink)
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With the 'stock' CT26, boost (power) will drop off after 5,500 rpm, so basically a CT20b or 'high flowed' CT26 should hold boost to at least  ~6,500 rpm.
 
No worries, here's another link that I think is also useful: http://www.mrcontrols.com/primers/power.htm

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Re:Hardtop sw20 - First time mr2 owner WA 2012/04/02 19:16:32 (permalink)
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i don't think there's much to worry about with the hoses. pretty sure someone else has used rev3+ hoses on earlier without dramas.
 
well looks like JTW shafted the dude that had the motor installed.
 
so what actual yr model is your mr2? was it orig NA?
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Re:Hardtop sw20 - First time mr2 owner WA 2012/04/02 19:36:38 (permalink)
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also at what rpm are you getting 12psi?
 
the stock ct26 should be able to hold 12psi to redline, but you'll notice it feeling somewhat suffocated above 5500rpm
 
if you have a hiflow, prob not much point swapping for a ct20b unless it's a rubbish hiflow and is too laggy, ie:doesn't hit full boost till 4000rpm
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Re:Hardtop sw20 - First time mr2 owner WA 2012/04/02 19:38:23 (permalink)
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I think that labor for install was cheap if turned the key ? 
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Re:Hardtop sw20 - First time mr2 owner WA 2012/04/02 19:42:56 (permalink)
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its an 89 model/ Imported to aus from japan in 2004. Sadly import paperwork dosent say if it was turbo or Na, but the recipt from the turbo rebuild is dated prior to the engine being replaced, so i would guess it was turbo.
 
where do people order there performance parts from? I was thinking about getting a greddy intercooler kit (apparently there the best?) and a exhaust as my first mods. What brand/model of exhaust do you think would be the most efficent/better flowing? single or twin tipped? Sorry if i sound like a newb, but thats what i am with this car :P Google is proving a overflow of information all saying different things, i figure you guys would know from experience what works best.
 
Edit- i didnt check what rpm i was at, when i have my hoses replaced ill be able to take it out for a spin to check
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Re:Hardtop sw20 - First time mr2 owner WA 2012/04/02 20:04:44 (permalink)
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use gorilla inds, they're forum vendors. they can source new and used parts.
 
fujitsubo legalis R seems to have the highest rating in the mr2 world. being not too loud and looking great.
 
def keep twin exit, other options for new are BERK
 
i wouldn't fork out for a new greddy, exp and not ness better than the ebay copies.
 
but don't get an ebay exh
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Re:Hardtop sw20 - First time mr2 owner WA 2012/04/02 21:30:13 (permalink)
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sent gorilla a message about the 2nd hand  fujutsubo exhaust they *hopefully* still have.
 
looking at ebay coolers but none of them seem to have the mounting plate thing the greddy cooler has.
 
Edit - Is there a surefire way of making sure when gen engine this is? A guess could work out not so well when im looking at getting a new stand-alone ecu
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Re:Hardtop sw20 - First time mr2 owner WA 2012/04/03 09:30:05 (permalink)
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Actually a single piped/outlet exhaust has the best flow, but most people go for twin outlets for appearance/sound. I've got a Phoenix Power (Garage f-u-k-u-i) Departure II Pro, which is probably the best flowing off the shelf twin exhaust as the piping is 3.35" - it was too big for my 3" Berk DP lol
It looks like you've currently got a single exhaust, so that would probably flow better than a lot of the twins going around. If the piping is 3", why not keep it there?

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Re:Hardtop sw20 - First time mr2 owner WA 2012/04/03 10:59:16 (permalink)
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re: which engine.
 
the TB and inlet are dead giveaways as to what revision and generation motor.
 
but you can also check the part number on your ECU
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Re:Hardtop sw20 - First time mr2 owner WA 2012/04/03 14:33:49 (permalink)
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Re:Hardtop sw20 - First time mr2 owner WA 2012/04/03 14:38:10 (permalink)
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Mate, its a Gen 2...easy giveaways are the toyota emblem stamped on the valve cover, the AFM after the air filter, the sticker on the inlet manifold.  You also do not have a factory oil catch can which the Gen 3 has.
 
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Re:Hardtop sw20 - First time mr2 owner WA 2012/04/03 14:45:33 (permalink)
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MIDN1T3

Mate, its a Gen 2...easy giveaways are the toyota emblem stamped on the valve cover, the AFM after the air filter, the sticker on the inlet manifold.  You also do not have a factory oil catch can which the Gen 3 has.

Cheers,

Correct - who ever recorded it as a '1995' 3S-GTE is, obviously, Wrong.  

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