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Re: Sneak peak of my (eventually) race car - testing air jacks 2015/02/01 16:30:29 (permalink)
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Thanks Highlander.
 
Eveyone that give me grief are friends, so no doubt i give them grief thats for sure, just not on here 
 
Yeah thought about bringing it up few times, long way to tow a car tho with no doors, windows ect, needs to be covered with tarp, or find an enclosed trailer to hire.
 
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Re: Sneak peak of my (eventually) race car - testing air jacks 2015/02/01 19:21:58 (permalink)
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I wasn't being mean. I just selfishly want to see this car finished. I have met many guys that have big projects and never finish. I have a mate with a twin turbo 4L MGB with 700HP (engine has been dynoed) and he hasn't finished the car. He started in 1995

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Re: Sneak peak of my (eventually) race car - testing air jacks 2015/02/01 19:53:49 (permalink)
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I know you wernt Glenn :)

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Re: Sneak peak of my (eventually) race car - Now with Motec 2015/02/01 21:48:33 (permalink)
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You all volunteering to come over and help me?
 
I would say Totenkopf is flying down to help me soon, altho i doubt it, more like just give me crap for everything ive done, make me re do everything ha ha ha, or tell me how ive wasted money and show me what open cockpit carbon monocoque i could have bought
 
Come on guys..... im not trying to build a stock car, i had one remember, and you can hardly say i haven't done anything in the last few years, i think its actually coming together ok.
 
Well its already at the point of no return, nothing factory left on the car, so i dont see a point wasting alot of time and money that i dont have to buy parts, temporary get it all working (wiring, plumbing, hardware ect) just to drive it, for how long? then remove it all, re do all the stuff i just did to then put in the other parts i have or need to buy.
 
Putting an engine in isnt that big of a deal, I have alot of the engine already, just need to buy parts for the head and get the head built, then assemble the block, but i suppose its all the million little things that add up to cost much more then the 'long block' ie exhausts, plumbing, wiring, sensors ect, but still not much is needed (money and effort from me to get things organized) to have a long block built and put in the car, then it would look like the cars almost finished, nearly ready to race, but the engine is the last thing i will be doing, dont want to have a brand new built motor just sitting around for ages, rather it go in fresh when almost ready to start up.
 
You all know that i get as much (or more?) out of the car buying parts and building it, the knowledge learnt from it ect then i would driving it.




I think I helped Brendan pull the engine out.. three + years ago :D  Then I remember doing something with a heat exchanger a couple of years ago, which is subsequently sold.. Now I've just given up :D
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Re: Sneak peak of my (eventually) race car - Now with Motec 2015/02/01 22:12:25 (permalink)
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Sorry James, just re read what i wrote, could be taken the wrong way, i wasnt having a dig at you at all, i was joking, your one of my biggest helpers!
 
BWT the heat exchanger isnt sold, just may be a change of what i use. 
 
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Re: Sneak peak of my (eventually) race car - Now with Motec 2015/02/01 22:47:04 (permalink)
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I meant "dude... more P0rn!" pretty much as i say everytime i see awesome updates. 

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Re: Sneak peak of my (eventually) race car - Now with Motec 2015/02/01 22:59:58 (permalink)
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well I'll say it then
Hurry the **** up, even mine is going now
(but I have still plenty of things to do)
 
 
 
 
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Re: Sneak peak of my (eventually) race car - Now with Motec 2015/02/02 09:14:00 (permalink)
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Yes, there is plenty of P0rn with this car but all the sensors to spot cars coming up from behind are not really needed for your applications. Such a great build but you have covered all the bases so just keep going and it will all be ready before you know it. To me, you are on the home straight so do not divert with more gear!  
I am sure you know we all mean well as we all want to see you driving at the track sooner than later.
 
Even if you could get the car to a stage of all the panels installed, brakes, gearbox, you could bring it to MTC where you can put the car in the photoshoot. Getting it onto the track for the photoshoot will be quite easy.
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Re: 2015/04/05 20:19:20 (permalink)
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Small updates, well i havent done much on the car lately, all i really have done was some scat tubing.
 
Small bilge blower fan installed under the dash (small, light, cheap, blows a lot of air and draws very little current, downsize is alot of noise!) then runs through a carbon fiber splitter (part of some used Nascar parts i got cheap) then few scat tubes around, just to blow some air on my / around the cabin / on some electronics.
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
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Re: 2015/04/05 22:13:36 (permalink)
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Cosworth solid state battery isolator
 
300Amps continuous and 1,000 Amps surge - so fine to handle the whole car including starter
 
Deutsch Autosport ASU connector for trigger
 
 

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Re: 2015/04/06 10:38:51 (permalink)
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Whats the damage like on the isolator?
 
Do you really need to cool down the electrics or is it just because?
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Re: 2015/04/06 11:43:39 (permalink)
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Looks great B.
I was thinking of the heat from the PCU a few weeks back. It certainly looks like you will be ready for some endurance races.
Funny enough, I am on the list to run a few events at a new track to be built in NSW where I will be running some decent endurance races with open class racing. Chances are, you car and the track should be ready around the same time!
Will you be running a system where you can transfer data back to the pits each lap? I know the Mazda guys at B12hr had a system where they could send back telemetry of a lap as they passed the receiver they set up in their garage. It was only capable of transfer of small amounts of data but I believe there must be a way to use current 3G or 4G tech to transfer data in real time. Certainly with all these new apps available you must be able to watch a data stream in real time via a mobile device.
Are you fitting a steering wheel potentiometer to compliment the brake and accelerator? Could be handy for driver training. It is something I would like to look at once mine is up and running.
I to have a isolator but its a Jaycar special. I am sure it will be enough as the wiring system is not experiencing half the load of a street car.
I see you still have the brake bias lever. Are you going to fit non power assist brakes, dual cylinders, adjustable bias as I have done? If not, you will have to fit your pressure sensor after that lever. It is also a well proven way for brake adjustment.
What are you doing for radio? Are you fitting a CB unit or just running hand held radio with a power supply.
Are you making allowance for cool suit for longer races in hot environments? Very handy for 30 minute plus events like 6 hour regularities, 300km races.
Will you have a high beam button on the steering wheel? Another handy addition when passing slower traffic and tormenting people you are battling for track position.
Have you 'bitten the bullet' with the fuel surge system we were chatting about?
 
 
 
 
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Re: 2015/04/06 13:41:29 (permalink)
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Looks great B.
I was thinking of the heat from the PCU a few weeks back. It certainly looks like you will be ready for some endurance races.

 
Thats my plan, while most of my cars use will no doubt be sprints and club days, my cars build is aimed at endurance.
 
 
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Will you be running a system where you can transfer data back to the pits each lap? I know the Mazda guys at B12hr had a system where they could send back telemetry of a lap as they passed the receiver they set up in their garage. It was only capable of transfer of small amounts of data but I believe there must be a way to use current 3G or 4G tech to transfer data in real time. Certainly with all these new apps available you must be able to watch a data stream in real time via a mobile device.

 
As you know i have all the Motec gear, can download very fast when in the pits or garage ect, but yes, at some stage the plan is to the Motec telemetry, which is the same as used in V8SC ect, so its a radio / modem device, is constant connection, most places.
 
 
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Are you fitting a steering wheel potentiometer to compliment the brake and accelerator? Could be handy for driver training. It is something I would like to look at once mine is up and running.

 
Yes i will be fitting a pot for steering angle, will be a rotary pot, the 2 wheel belt driven type, in the cabin off the steering column.
 
 
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 I see you still have the brake bias lever. Are you going to fit non power assist brakes, dual cylinders, adjustable bias as I have done? If not, you will have to fit your pressure sensor after that lever. It is also a well proven way for brake adjustment.

 
Yes i am running a pedal box, Tilton like yours with 2 AP Racing masters for the brakes (front & rear) with balance bar. 
I have there a bias adjuster for the balance bar and the AP racing proportioning valve.
When the car is all running i prob wont require the proportioning device but seeing as everything is new, ie pedal type, ratio, masters, rotors, calipers ect, there will be ALOT to setup and change, alot of info will come from data logged but obvioulsy i need to adjust alot to get it right, so rather have alot to adjust from my seat then go back to pits, hop out, adjust stuff, wait till next session, warm up car, brakes, tires ect same temp to see if the change is right or not.
 
The balance bar on the pedal when adjusted is pretty much fixed, ie when adjsuted to be say 60/30 it will be a similar ratio hard braking or soft.
 
The proportioning valve is also fixed ratio, (this one 0.325) what you adjust is at what input pressure that fixed ratio comes in, so light braking  its 1.1, bit harder maybe still 1.1 but then very hard the output (rear brakes) is reduced pressure.
 
 
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 What are you doing for radio? Are you fitting a CB unit or just running hand held radio with a power supply.

 
I have a Kenwood commercial portable (handheld) radio which is on the floor on that carbon tray, has external antenna (middle of my roof) and has adaptor for wiring from my helmet (speaker and mike) and external PTT button (steering wheel)
 
I have a few of these radios i use for work so have my own private frequency's (few ppl would have seen or used them at some of the track days ive helped out at) 
 
I will be running a repeater with an antenna on a mast at larger tracks
 
I would recommend portable (handheld) radios over hardwired mobile (truck CB style) units, as if you cut the elec isolator or have batt or wiring fault, it will still work. but yeah external roof mount antenna.
 
 
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Are you making allowance for cool suit for longer races in hot environments? Very handy for 30 minute plus events like 6 hour regularities, 300km races.

 
I have a cool suit dry ice box now but is only helmet air, i have nto yet got cool suit or pump for water yet, may do down the track.
 
 
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Will you have a high beam button on the steering wheel? Another handy addition when passing slower traffic and tormenting people you are battling for track position.

 
Yes, i have a headlight flash button on the wheel.
 
 
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Have you 'bitten the bullet' with the fuel surge system we were chatting about?

 
No havent done any fuel stuff yet, exept whats in the boot, but still aiming for a custom ATL bladder in the original location, unsure if i will use 2x 3" dry breaks for refueling yet, sill thinking i may use 2x -12 Staubli dry breaks under the front bonnet, for clean safe refueling via hand pump on a drum, all depends on how many in-race refueling event i will do, even then most have a minimum re fuel time like 5 mins
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Re: 2015/04/06 13:53:46 (permalink)
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Whats the damage like on the isolator?
 
Do you really need to cool down the electrics or is it just because?




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A little airflow over the PDM, even Cosworth suggests over the isolator too, is recommended, its only a very small amount of air coming down that 1 tube, and that tube is very very light and is just off that 1 fan, so im not adding a while fan just for the electronics.
I tend to make these decisions on hot days, so was prob 40 deg outside ha ha, now its like winter again no, its prob not needed ha ha.
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Re: 2015/04/06 13:57:36 (permalink)
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As someone who hates sitting in a car without airflow i would probably have even more fans than you
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