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Re:AWD vs RWD 2012/01/19 13:44:39 (permalink)
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My mate does EVOs all the time. He did a clutch yesterday. Does it in 1 day.
 
He changed my clutch too. 2 hours everything was on the ground with the clutch off. Waiting another hour or so for the new clutch to arrive then about 1.5 hours to put it back in. He works by himself. It is tricky and the gearbox is fkn heavy. When he was working at another place three of them held the box up under the car and slotted it in.
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Re:AWD vs RWD 2012/01/19 14:07:25 (permalink)
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Blue2

Evo 8, 8MR and 9

Dump Pipe
Front Pipe
Cat Back
Intake
Boost Controller and Reflash is easy to see 230kw+ if done right.

Thats about $5k - $6k right there.

If you reflash a stock one, its not gonna get much gain.

Evo boxes ARE strong. Definately stronger than WRX boxes. However, when you are dumping the clutch at redline to shoot it off like a sling shot, things will break and when they do, its not cheap.

Most people buy an Evo on the idea that its unbreakable and drive it in that way, which often breaks it.

I'd bet WRX 6speeds are just as strong (prolly very much the same) as the Evo boxes. Either way, I think both are fine for the basic Stage1 upgrades, which is really where those cars shine in my eyes anyway.
 
Dump pipe isn't absolutely necessary I believe (would be good of course). Budget increase would be:
 
Reflash + boost increase via restrictor upgrade/modification (no EBC required)
IC piping
Cat-back (which most Evos already have)
Intake
 
That'll be potentially under $1500 if your Evo already came with an exhaust. Add a fuel pump if you want to be safe (prolly MR BOV if you don't have one). A solid 200-225awkw depending on turbo (GSR, Evo8/9MR). Good for easy 12's.
 
Second note re the clutch. Stick to an organic full-face if possible. Sacrifice repeated launch capability (which you shouldn't do anyway) for a more durable & streetable clutch.

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11.96 @ 116mph (with 228rwkw)
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Re:AWD vs RWD 2012/01/19 14:12:15 (permalink)
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Any AWD/4WD is going to be harder on clutches than an MR2, obviously wheelspin or lackthereof in the case of the Evo will make a big difference through higher stresses on the driveline. The older WRX gearboxes were basically made of glass lol
I'm sure Totenkopf knows what he was doing, and I bet the very first time your mate did an EVO clutch it wasn't in just a few hours...its just probably a real **** compared to doing an SW20.

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Re:AWD vs RWD 2012/01/19 14:23:47 (permalink)
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I think it really depends on what you want/need the car for:
2 seats vs 4
2 door vs 4
boot/luggage space
If you don't need/want more than 2 doors and seats, why bother. There are RWD options that are newer than an MR2 that will cost similar money to purchase than an EVO. eg. late model 370Z, elise or cayman.
I have not driven an EVO so can't comment, but I think it would be hard pressed to be as fun as an elise or cayman
As for STI - forr me they just don't stand out. I see them on the road and don't give it a second glance. The EVO you at least look at and acknowledge "that's a special car". The STI has lost that in recent versions
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Re:AWD vs RWD 2012/01/19 16:55:32 (permalink)
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Time wise the clutch wasn't too bad, I started one afternoon and had it back in by the following afteroon, I wasn't doing anything much before lunch time or 1pm (or later).  Probably took me 6hrs or so, the fact was, it was a nightmare (compared to an MR2 at least).  The transfer case was jammed between the engine and the firewall, the selector cranks on the gearbox were hitting on the chassis rail on reinstallation. 
 
Its a situation where you could quite easily do damage (however minor, scraping up the frame, damaging transfer case or hydraulic line attached to said transfer case).  I am pedantic, I don't like damaging things, scratching **** up unncessarily, etc.   Honestly, I'd have much prefered to remove the whole subframe and do it that way, and probably should have cause I was doing the timing components at the same time.  I also had to undertake push to pull conversion on the clutch, which involved some machine work on the clutch slave cylinder.
 
The clutch would then not bleed at all, ****ed around for an hour before googling that you have to overfill the resevoir to get it to bleed - bloody hell.
 
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