Typical SA gov at it again....

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/km-of-country-roads-to-have-limits-cut-from-110kmh-to-100kmh/story-e6frea83-1226188639763
 
You can't legislate against peoples stupidity but you can easily change signs and set up radars...

Very true, I find it hard to believe that there isn't more done on Driver Education.
 
Consider how fast and close race car drivers run against each other at much faster speeds than any speed limit, what makes the difference? When the light goes green they go, when the lights are yellow they slow down, when the race is over they stop.
 
With driving, no matter what happens there is ALWAYS a cause and effect, if every car was able to brake safely from 200km an hour at the set of lights and each car allowed for that then there should be no reason. If people stuck to the lines and didn't sway off or try take adverse risks many people would still be alive.

I think it would be a fantastic idea to have a TV show that just broadcasted driving tips and things to watch out for on the road. I know I don't like to take risks on the road, I always keep enough distance as much as possible, I don't speed, and stop for red lights.
 
Driver Fatigue is a huge factor, even if its only a little tired. Coming home from work, people have just worked 8-9 hours sitting down or actively working. The mind is tired, in the morning people have just woken up.
 
110 to 100km is just going to make people even more tired, at least at 110km your having to concentrate more. Driver education is the only way I think.

Its interesting that you have to renew your Go Karting Licence, Gun Licence etc but for Driving a car (which is classified very much as a weapon) there is no
 
And if they are good drivers, there should be no reason they shouldn't pass if the test was redone say every 10 years. As an incentive they can give a discount on the registration which in effect should reduce the Death Toll and not to mention the amount that TAC would have to pay out for accidents.

I know many people who had to drive the car up a street then back, that was all that was needed. 
 
Its interesting that they mention the car crashed into the tree, but there was a person driving it. I want to know more about how they crashed so others can know how to deal with it to make sure it doesn't happen again (very sorry they passed away though).
 
Personally the death toll should be 0, no accidents on the road and dropping the speed limit down isn't going to get that.
Look at me i've rambled on... haha

I believe this too. Nothing worse than a truck behind you wanting to overtake, the sound of it overtaking you is very daunting indeed (I feel like going Fast and the Furious and going under his trailer haha)
 
All of the Near misses I have had in the past have been people that weren't concentrating, the difference is that I was and avoided it.

I had someone fly through a red light at full speed, I was turning right through the intersection and stopped, by the time he stopped he was on the other side of the intersection. Would have siderammed my car big time.
 
I have to admit at all times we can't concentrate 100% on what we are doing but the point is that I don't think nearly enough is being done.
 
A speeding fine stops 1 out of 10,000 speeders. I am sure there is no easy solution but reducing speed fines is just basically saying that drivers are not able to manage their cars at those speeds, what that also means is that when drivers DO push their cars over that speed (100km +) they will have little idea how the car will handle, or take to the wind effects especially when being overtaken by a big truck at 10-20km above their speed.
 

MRTurbo

Ha yeah Fast and Furious - I need a VTEC Civic though?? 
I don't let those ****s overtake me if I can help it, I'd rather have a speeding fine than die. Most of them are supposed to be limited to 100, but I've seen some real cowboys in those things and they don't stop for anything. 

Since getting my motorbike licence a few years ago, I feel like I'm a much better driver now. Fast bikes don't forgive stupidity, so you'll soon find yourself dead if you don't respect them. You ride like everyone in cars is out to kill you. I do take more notice in intersections now in the MR2 or bike, not blindly barreling through just because the light says green.  

Yea I find its very daunting, i've had some overtake me well above the speed limiter and its scary, rocks your car off the road nearly.
 

midmount

I feel for you guys in SA, but if its any consolation they'll probably intorduce this in VIC sometime soon on the back of some 'evidence' that it worked in SA. 

I am for regular license test/renewals (perhaps 5+ years) as road rules do change over time and how do you find out about them?  it's not as if everyone scans our respective states road rules periodically.

MRTurbo
Ha yeah Fast and Furious - I need a VTEC Civic though?? 

Only if you've got green neons

Hahaha "I never knocked on nobody"

I thought Vic was 100 km/h on ALL country roads? Well it was last time I was down your way to Melb. Vic police has a really bad reputation here from I've found Re speeding/cops attitude etc, I've been sent a fine in the mail driving a Festiva without even seeing a camera anywhere, must have been hidden in a tree lol...
 
I'm not for regular licence test personally (we pay enough already), since 99% of driving is common sense. The fundamental rules haven't changed in decades. 
 

zmit
 I'm sure the government have a plan for increasing driving training, and fixing the roads.
It's just that they have no money... so by dropping the speed limits, they can get more money to then spend on the roads and training!
See! it makes perfect sense. It's ok everyone, the government is here to help!*

 *Note sarcasm

You're on a power trip Ms Rankine!!!!

To be honest I don't see this as revenue raising. Just because the limit will change doesn't mean there will automatically be more cops and cameras to catch speeders. I believe its designed to look like they are doing something about the road toll, but ultimately will have little effect.
 
Reducing the speed limit generally just decreases the severity of crashes, whereas driver education would actually decrease the number of crashes. Despite what the government would say, the large reduction in road toll has mostly been achieved through better and safer cars, not different laws.
 
Also I already thought Vic had mostly 100kmh limits. I've done the Adelaide > Melbourne trip several times, and as soon as you cross the border its 100kmh right up until you get to the dual carriageway outside melbourne.
 
+1 to owning a motorbike makes you a better driver. The absolute dickheads will write themselves off in the first 6 months, but if you survive that then it definitely gives you a greater awareness that translates to 4 wheels as well.