Police bluff?

i know i am young, but i have had my running ins with the law in this side of things (stuff i choose not to publicly talk about)
but one thing i can say is that when they have no proof, they try to make you admit to things,
hence in your case, he asked how fast you thought you where going, in a 70 kmh zone you generally have a ten percent buffer ie 77kmh to where it is up to the officer most times to let you go or give you a speeding ticket, hence if you said 80, he could have given you a speeding ticket for speeding 10 kmh over
hence why he said he reckons 80 - 85
if you deny something, and they have no proof, the matter goes no where
example in my case
an officer pulled me over at 2am and claimed i was street racing with a car next to
i was dumb founded to this claim and said to the officer on the night, i wasnt racing, at the most i was doing 80kmh (in a 70 zone)
he couldn't prove either (he had no inboard camera or speed camera) so he hands me a CAN (court attendance notice)
i go to court, and seeing as on the night i straight out said i did not street race but i admitted to doing 80, i got a speeding ticket, where if i didn't say a thing, the officer wouldn't have been able to prove a thing and i wouldn't have gotten a thing

Hmmm surprised to hear this, I didn't think you fitted into the demographic they usually target wiz. I would have thought you would have gotten more respect than that.

Back in the days of the Honda Prelude - was pulled up for racing another car as we were side by side and simply had fart cans on both cars. Neither of us was racing and it was a 60 zone... purely getting up to the speed limit in which I was mildly in front of the other car but wasn't accelerating hard. This cop comes out of nowhere - literally not another car on the road and pulls both of us over at a set of lights. Claims we were doing in excess of 80km/h and saying things like "I'm sick of you young hoons thinking you own the road - just sick of it". I was like that's good and all mate, but I was literally doing 60km/h with no intention of racing the guy. He let us off with a warning after a breath test and license check.
On another note - was just pulled up speeding (fair enough this time) - I was at the bottom of quite a steep hill proceeding to go up another hill when I get pulled over by a cop who's jumped out from the top of the hill in front of me and pulled me up. The hill has a crest then another smaller hill that dips down. He's pulled me up from just behind the top of the second crest - in which you CAN'T see the hill at all (none of it - jumped out to see myself). He reckons I was doing 93 at the top and 89 at the bottom of the hill. Was in 5th gear at the time the entire way without using the brakes.
Because there was no sign, no car, didn't see him (hiding) and I simply can't get my head around how he's actually seen me go down the hill without me seeing him - is this entrapment? I thought the police aren't allowed to hide and need to be in clear sight when raising revenue?

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Originally posted by jdmr288is this entrapment?

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I think ... not 100% sure ... that in Aus they don't haven entrapment laws cause you still "broke the law." Thats why some cops will rev their undercover cars at you at the light to see if you will give it a boot full and then impound your car.

They are sneaky pricks and can be real arseholes. The "good" cops seem to be few and far between now. Also from my experience the younger they are the more they seem to have to prove something.

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Originally posted by MuMan

My moma once told me "son, never break the law..and never admit to anything"

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+1


exactly what my mates lawyer told us when we where in court for my above matter
'never admit to anything, unless they can prove you wrong' exact words spoken via the lawyers mouth

and in regards to entrapment,for the police, anything goes. the local hang out, wich is krispe kremes and mcdonalds in my area, has regular visits from taipan, where they block off the exits to the carpark where everyone sits, and pulls over every car to search for a form of defect, ive seen mothers with children get given a ticket for having their foglights on. like cmon? i understand if you did that to a P plater who is there for trouble/hooning/being a menace to the public that also goes there
but a mother?
fair enough they are trying to keep us safe on the streets from idiots/ reckless drivers/ing but isn't it getting a bit to far?

yeah but still why harras a mother for when theres all a carpark full of people that deserve it?

damn straight equal rights! what about our insurance premiums etc ?