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RE: 2GR V6 conversion parts 2011/01/06 16:40:15 (permalink)
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V6MR2 just get in touch directly with Gouky from TwoBrutal.co.uk if you haven't been on there already. He's the guy that makes and sells the mounts and exhaust manifolds to fit the MR2.

There is a heap of info on the swap there as well.
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RE: 2GR V6 conversion parts 2011/01/06 20:24:04 (permalink)
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I'm still chasing down a well priced half cut, and are you able to discuss pricing for the clutch slave and the wiring?
And I was talking about the wiring to my uncle, and we have a question about the immobilizer system, if it uses it's own ecu and wiring loom Wich then connects tomthe ecu, then wouldn't that mean that the immobilizer ecu just sends a current or a signal to the ecu letting it no that everything ok? If so, wouldn't it be easier the manipulate this signal or current to the ecu and not worry about all the Imobilizer crap?
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RE: 2GR V6 conversion parts 2011/01/06 20:26:10 (permalink)
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And Justin i guess I'll have too, unless there is a way I can get my hands on actual dimensions and make my own?
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RE: 2GR V6 conversion parts 2011/01/06 20:41:01 (permalink)
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And Justin i guess I'll have too, unless there is a way I can get my hands on actual dimensions and make my own?



Manifolds would be simple enough but mount adaptor would be a hell of a lot of r&d. The mount gouky sells is a quality bit of gear especially for the price. BTW he is in the states so should be even better priced now than when i got mine
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RE: 2GR V6 conversion parts 2011/01/08 09:05:30 (permalink)
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we decided it was cheaper to buy the mount adapators than make them when we did Matts car. i think the same will still apply. it would be a huge amount of effort. HOWEVER, the mounts are far from a perfect fit, and we had to re-machine/modify what he sold us, plus the origtinal 3SGTE cam end rubber mount. If we had a few buyers, we would tool up to make them locally.If you deiced to buy his adaptors, I'll modify your cam end mount for $75.

modified clutch bracket $150 exchange

wiring. $2000. send me your 3SGTE harness + Aurion harness I'll adapt it all and make send back loom + new wiring to throttle pedal.

security computer etc. no , you cant just by-pass it with a simple device/bridge/signal. i could probably design a solution, but the time effort is not worth bothering at this stage. you need the Aurion transponder key, transmitter coil that surrounds it, security computer. thats part of my wiring job.

I can supply a complete aurion engine + engine electrics + security systems stuff for $3800

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RE: 2GR V6 conversion parts 2011/01/09 00:13:04 (permalink)
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3800 and it will be ready for me to put in? If so then that sounds feasible.
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RE: 2GR V6 conversion parts 2011/01/09 00:51:39 (permalink)
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Would it be feasable to supercharge that engine in the 2 or is that a ridiculous concept?
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RE: 2GR V6 conversion parts 2011/01/09 01:53:21 (permalink)
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I think they do low thirteens Down the quarter with the na 2gr fe
Now looking at the aurion Wich is where there from, I think there's half a second difference between the standard aurion and the Trd (supercharged) version, I don't see why that wouldn't apply to these two engines compared to each other in an mr2?
Mid to high twelves maybe?
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RE: 2GR V6 conversion parts 2011/01/09 09:21:23 (permalink)
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v6mr2- Toyotas immobilizer equipped ECUs work like this

the transponder ecu needs to recognise the ignition key put into the ignition barrel
by detecting the chip(or whatever they call it) in the head of the key
that then tells the theft deterrent ecu to send a (rolling) code
to the engine ECU
which then sends back a different rolling code that the theft deterrent ECU will recognise
if either ECU does not get a code recieve/response the engine ECU turns off
and logs a failure
after several failed start attempts the ECU locks itself OFF.

this is how it worked in Toyotas from around 1995 onwards
I imagine there may well be even harder to defeat systems on the latest gen stuff.
although even the older stuff doesn't seem to have been cracked
to elliminate the immobilizer gear.

So without the complete system
you basically have an empty box that holds all the ECU plugs in an orderly fashion.
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RE: 2GR V6 conversion parts 2011/01/09 09:30:02 (permalink)
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Surely thats even more of a reason to go aftermarket ECU.

Sounds like alot less hassles than trying to get the stock ecu/immob setup working and gives more scope for mods and tuning.
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RE: 2GR V6 conversion parts 2011/01/09 09:42:31 (permalink)
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I love how you put that one Greg :p

'you basically have an empty box that holds all the ECU plugs in an orderly fashion.'
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RE: 2GR V6 conversion parts 2011/01/09 11:10:09 (permalink)
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no, the aurion engine/loom/electrics price was for a standard one out of a wreck we have. all the other work to make it fit into a MR2 is extra as per my prices. if you are serious about this conversion from us, phone me during work hours please

i suspect you will never get it mod plated/registered with a non standard ECU unless you want to pay the $8000 or so for the ADR emission compliance tests.

a supercharger will not fit easily. as a MINIMUM it will need radical changes to the engine lid & strut braces . the belt drive system will be a struggle to fit as the stock V6 only just fits in this area. I got a genuine TRD Aurion supercharger manifold to check it out

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RE: 2GR V6 conversion parts 2011/01/09 12:00:09 (permalink)
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quote:

a supercharger will not fit easily. as a MINIMUM it will need radical changes to the engine lid & strut braces . the belt drive system will be a struggle to fit as the stock V6 only just fits in this area. I got a genuine TRD Aurion supercharger manifold to check it out




Wouldn't be 'too' radical for the engine lid, struts most likely.

Wallet? lotto territory...
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RE: 2GR V6 conversion parts 2011/01/09 12:01:46 (permalink)
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Surely thats even more of a reason to go aftermarket ECU.

Sounds like alot less hassles than trying to get the stock ecu/immob setup working and gives more scope for mods and tuning.



as long as you get all the parts(not forgetting the key) from the donor vehicle, its fine.

to get Transit Authority approved/registered
is much simpler with a standard set up.

aftermarket ECU requires getting full emissions testing done as well
which can get expensive($/hr) trying to meet current level requirements.
Last I spoke to a guy who offers emissions testing/passing
he explained that it usually ends up costing between $800-1000
but includes/involves a lot more(parts) than just tuning an ECU
in that figure, to get to the result.
Then you go to the Transit test facility(which may be 100's of km away) and they test it and take more money.)

example of lack of facilities
NSW has 2 Transit Authority test stations
Botany and Penrith,here's where they are positioned in the state(blue dots)

not too bad if you happen to live near one.

*edit*
Note that by emissions testing/passing I did not mean that he is authorised to pass the car
but gets it to a passing level
where it will pass the test when taken to the Transit facility.
And the price(2yrs back) was his price and is not including the Transit Authority costs.
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RE: 2GR V6 conversion parts 2011/01/11 17:15:43 (permalink)
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all the rules have changed in NSW as of mid December. suggest you talk to NSW registered engineer before making any assumptions. make sure the enginner is registered under the new scheme (I'm told they all have to re-apply),.
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