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RE: TRD (or any) body kit - fitment process to follow
2010/04/24 15:42:38
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RE: TRD (or any) body kit - fitment process to follow
2010/04/29 03:34:57
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Bit of an update... So trying to fiddle around with three seperate front panels (guards and bumper), and with the two guards having completely different fitment/dimensions I decided to take the three off and build them off the car; results below - my front room has returned to the workshop space!! So still working alone, I went to Bunnings and for the price of an expensive Perth pint I bought bag of 16 sprung clamps of various sizes - quality tools! I can now operate as an octopus, no longer limited to just two hands - a right result  Below is the overview from the stairs - shows the clamps and vicegrips in position.  Below is image of clamps in place after a good 10 minute heat gun session. Bolt positions can be seen inside the guard towards the front bumper part. Also, (unfortunately) near the clamp closest to the camera is a crack where there is a wheel arch lip which will eventually form thge area where the guard liner is attached - doesn't look critical but it will need some fibreglass repair attention before a final fit is possible  Below is the same join from the front - looks half-decent given there's no filler or fibreglass involved yet?? I was pleased in any case  I particularly like the near-vertical line to the left of the panels, which i think forms a definitive part of the overall TRD kit look - hope this happens when I bolt it to the car?!!  Below is a pic of the same join from the side; wheel arch arc and join line look ok to my eyes..?? It is obvioust that the same clamping process was repeated on the opposite side..  Below is the opposite (passenger) side guard/bumper join - slightly 'out' but this can be rectified with some fibreglass and filler. My plan at this stage is to fit the panels to the car, and once I'm happy, bond the whole kit togetherm, and then bolt to the car as one peice. Given my post about insurance companies and their view of the additions, http://www.mr2australia.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19867 I intend to up my insured value to $20-$25k and wear the premium so that if anyone smashes me I'll be properly recompensed for my (considerable!) efforts  The beach of a thing with these kits is the angles of the tabs, and horizontal sections which should lie flat and flush against each other, but which don't - a product of poor quality molds I imagine. Funny thing is the lad I bought it off told me he paid $13,000 for it and had it imported from Japan.. After a spot of bartering I paid $1300 - standard price for a TRD replica kit in Australia.. Must have seen him coming I reckon... ;) Anyways, the clamps in conjuntion with the heat gun have helped loads in forming the somewhat 'warped' panel angles (i.e. where the horizontal part of the guard meets the horizontal part of the bumper) into the correct position - pleased with the outcome so far, so we'll see how the whole peice fits onto the car tomorrow. I've admittedly spent a great deal of time trying to get the fibreglass parts to "fit" to the factory mounting points, but in some cases there are no tabs on yhe molds at the rigth spots or it just won't happen SO my latest logic is to form/manipulate/bend/extend the mounting points to the individual fibreglass panels, once the exterior positioniong looks correct. Or shold that be 'panel' now it's one big three-part beast. Will stick some pics of the results tomorrow if they're positive - had been wrestling with the individual panels for too long - a very unrewarding experience, but then again it;s lke anything with this build - after much sweat, frustration and sometimes anger(!), I manage to attach one panel, i.e. a rear quarter, and then spend the next week or two thinking how differently I could have done it and then trying various different ways!! - the three-to-one front section looks the goods in the house though Pete - ready when you are mate!!
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RE: TRD (or any) body kit - fitment process to follow
2010/02/05 04:24:50
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Attached the bolted together panels on Thursday aftenoon, knee held up ok.. Bolting points, needs a bit of a tidy up around the edges of the panels, but nothing a dremel can't remedy...  First fit looks ok? though bumper/guard mounting points were done 'off the car' so despite moulding the bolt-together faces to be as close to horizontal/vertical flush as possible, the tolerances of the panel/car meant that a dodgy fit occurred at the drivers side front quarter...  Passenger side looks ok,  Need to somehow move the whole thing towards the drivers side to blend in the right corner/panel gap width  Driver's side guard doesn't look as snug as passenger, and will take more work but arch line up looks ok??  Got my vertical lines   Nearly  Looks like it's time to start thinking about how to fibreglass and filler, as I reckon these panels can be made to fit somewhow! Any pointers for next steps to reach final fitment appreciated [x2x]
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RE: TRD (or any) body kit - fitment process to follow
2010/02/05 20:20:49
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Today was a good day. I think?! After umming and ahhing for 6 weeks of what/how to do it, and them being really reluctant about cutting/grinding my car body, today I took the plunge and ground off some metal at the front arc of the rear wheel arch to attempt the first side skirt fit...  I cut out all of the visible red metal area behind the blue fibreglass rear quarter panel after lining up a cardboard template of the top of the skirt where it meets the wheel arch..  Using the trusty dremel  I mounted a bolt to a tab behind the skirt external wall and tightened the bolt from inside the cockpit at the factory mounting location accessed behind the seat belt fitting. The same bolt passes thru the rear quarter panel.. Arch line looks ok for a first fix..?  Now I have to work the side skirt closer to teh car body and heat mould into place - to be fixed with tech screws along the door sill..  First fix views (1)..  ...(2)...  This view shows a decent vertical alignment with the other panels looking down the length of the car body..  And at the front of the arch where the skirt meets the guard. Not quite sure how to finish off this section; The side skirt is bonded into place in the car so it's permanent, but if I permanently bond the front sectinoof the side skirt to the front guard, I'll never be able to take the guard off?! not sure if this will cause maintenance issue int he fiuture - any comments would be gratefully received as always  I also had a go at the dodgy fitting driver's side corner of teh front bumper. Basically I had to widen the bolt holes I'd made when putting the panels together in thr house, as when the whole thing was mounted to the car they were a little too close together causing the dodgy fitting. I managed to get hold of an extra couple of mm each side (pass and driver sides), and also had to 'dremel' off the internal fibreglass radius. I've gone pretty thin on the fibreglass so will have to lay over multiple additional layers of fibreglass to the non-visible side of the fibreglass bumper radius (i.e. from the inside) to re-strengthen the corner, as it's going to crack otherwise..  Looks much better with the frunk lid down now though  :  So I notice less comments these last few weeks - would appreciate some feedback!!! I would really benefit from some pointers going forward into the finishing stage (i.e. fibreglassing and filler work), especially from folks who've had a go at this or other generic body kit fitting - feel like I have a bit of momentum at the minute, so hopefully this time next week, most panels will be bolted into place, and then i can think about taking everything off again and making permanent fixings... defo the next big step!
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RE: TRD (or any) body kit - fitment process to follow
2010/02/05 21:10:56
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Have no idea on body work as you know but from what I can see its starting to really look the goods! Can't wait for the finished product! (with flush wheels of course :p)
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RE: TRD (or any) body kit - fitment process to follow
2010/02/05 23:13:10
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I have 0 knowledge about fiberglassing and very limited experience in body work so I will leave that for other folks to comment on. But the kit is really starting to come together now so I applaud your hard work! Just on those sprung clamps though - I have been building some wooden desks recently and a pack of those was pretty much the most helpful $10 I have spent :). Good work mate.
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RE: TRD (or any) body kit - fitment process to follow
2010/03/05 00:00:41
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I think the fit looks great so far! And you've done it all alone... I could not even begin to imagine how to start let alone get to where you are at. Very much looking forward to the finished job!
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RE: TRD (or any) body kit - fitment process to follow
2010/03/05 02:07:03
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been flat out all weekend getting some stuff organised but will call soon great to see so much progress
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RE: TRD (or any) body kit - fitment process to follow
2010/11/05 21:43:20
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After another weekend of graft, anther update.. After the success of bolting the front panels together the previous week, I decided to pull off the rear quarters, which had to this point been repeatedly heat gun'd to allow them to slowly form to the shape of the MR2 body. The rear bumper was offered up and seemed a good fit - to be honest, i think the fit hasn't been too bad so far, with the problem spots being the driver's side rear quarter (persuaded to join the car by heat gun!), and the driver's side front guard. the finished quality of the panels has left a little to be desired, but this is part of the finishing, and pefectinoist work, so am prepared for a lot of prep work... So we stripped off the qtrs and bolted together at the joining ledges of the rear bumper, at the exact holes where the rear quarters had been previously fixed to the car.  The rear bumper had to be heated and flexed so that the horizontal part of the rear quarters (where th two holes are in the picture) could meet the non-horizontal rear bumper joining ledges. May sound odd, but where the bumper comes around the corners of the car, the rear bumper forms part of the rear wheel arch - this just had to be heated to meet the qtrs, and tghen bolted into place, lining up the arch whilst it was off the car. As there was quite a bit of point load pressure at the washer where we'd bolted the panels together, I decided to spread the load across some metal plates -started with some door hinges with the pivot-pin loops ground off. then went for some wider plates I had lying around in my tool box..  And then in place..  We (Dozer n me) realised the bolt holes could not be accessed properly once the whole piece was on the car, so a trip to Bunnings found "Tee Nuts" - zinc plated (anti rust) fixings which marry to the 1/4" bolts I have been using, but which have a large (load spreading) collar on.  They fitted the bolt holes perfectly, and allow me to line up the bolt points with the factory mounting points accessable inside the boot. On final fitment I will be using Araldite to permanently bond to the rear bumper We offered up the whole piece to the car, taking care to line up the rear quarter/rear bumper bolt holes (where they'd been joined to the car previously) with the factory mounting points - success! At least on the driver's side.. After some jiggery pokery to line up the passenger side, after wrapping the bumper/rear quarters aroudn to line up to the previous fitment (of the rear quarter) we were on.. chuffed to bits - it's finally starting to look like a car...   In the mean time I'd been heat gunning and gradually pulling the side skirts closer to the car on the passenger side using the clamp set mentioned earlier. This has the two-fold benefit of moulding them to the car, and also to identify "high points" on the inner side of the skirt tobe sanded off to get a smooth join to the car door sill. here's a shot of the 'cut-out' section neede to be removed to fit the side skirts - Thanks to Jeff off imroc.co.uk fo his valued assistance and photos from UK here!!  Here's the factory bolt hole..  And the long neck bolt I bonded into place. This was acheived by cutting two lines into the mounting tab with a cutting wheel dremel bit, just wide enough for the bolt neck to slide up in with the bolt head behind, and then pouring Araldite into the gap behind the mounting tab to fix;  Leave it there for now, hpoing to see similar results on the front next weeekend, then I can start thinkgin about permanent fixing
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RE: TRD (or any) body kit - fitment process to follow
2010/06/07 21:15:01
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updates updates how goes the progress
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RE: TRD (or any) body kit - fitment process to follow
2010/06/07 21:33:54
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I can't imagine having half as much patience as what you've shown here... [}:)]
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RE: TRD (or any) body kit - fitment process to follow
2010/06/07 22:22:58
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quote: Originally posted by Dozer
updates updates how goes the progress
+1 Pics Pics!
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RE: TRD (or any) body kit - fitment process to follow
2010/12/07 08:55:31
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Well, it goes something like this.. So the car panels were picked up by the bodyshop Saturday morning, and the car goes in for it's transformation on Wednesday, so am pretty chuffed with it at the moment. It's looking like 3 months until I get it back, at which stage more pics will follow, but I have access to the ongoing work so there will be pics as of next weekend, with any luck ;)
In the end, I didn't fibreglass anything in myself. The best I did was the pics on here, thoughi did get all panels on and the look and shape of the TRD widebody was/is definitely there, which was very rewarding! So encouraging as that was, the over riding factor was the finish. I know the finish is gonna make or break the project as a whole, and weighing up having no garage/spray booth to work in, never fired a spray gun in anger in my life, the quailty of finish I am after, the cost of said finish, and the consequences of poor fibreglassing, mistakes etc, I decided to get a professional in to quote me for a respray.
The guy was recommended to me by a lad I know pretty well, and we had a phone call or two. I told him the plan to bring it to a stage where all it needed was the finish. The guy immediately knew what he was talking about, having done a few widebodies previous, and we talked numbers - later that week he came round and by that time I'd made up my mind to see how much he'd quote to do the whole thing. We agreed the price and work starts this week.
Pretty excited to tell the truth [;^)]
So it took (I'd say) 4-5 solid weekends with invaluable help from Dozer. Couldn't have even got it off the ground without your help mate. But If I was recommending others to do it, I'd say yes - defo, it's great work, and i did not find it to be the "18-month thankless-task-that-eventually-gets-mothballed" nightmare that I have read about elsewhere.. But you WILL need a permanent place to store it, like a garage or workshop; My carport was just not good enough and though I did try to get somewhere, rental spaces were either not cheap or not close enough. So set that up first and go at it. The rest of the "problems" are solved by effort and thinking. And a set of helping hands!! Also very important though is planning your money.
Hopefully this will be the start of prepping the turbo charged V6 part of the project, which I intend to carry out in the same way, probably starting later this year; Source the parts over an affordable period, say 6 months, all the while learning stuff, take things apart and put them back together again, then get the professionals to fit it all up. [88]
Hopefully pics to follow over the next 3 months..
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RE: TRD (or any) body kit - fitment process to follow
2010/07/21 23:37:57
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Bit more on the drop-off; Turns out the guy I'd been speaking to is the owner of Fibrevision in Welshpool. He introduced me to Bruce Sullivan, and between the two of them they're going to fit up the project. Some cool custom work going into it too, which should be able to be made out in the concept board pics - wider 2000GT arches, and extended rear centre panel so the tail lights aren't so recessed at the back. Looking forward to the rresults, but it's going to be a patient wait - something I'm not exactly very good at... [xx(] So, some pictures of my concept board are below, and one with the car as I last saw it at Fibrevision's garage...   I have a few original parts for sale which won't be making the transition to the new custom widebody vehicle - link below, hopefully some folks can benefit from my spares!
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RE: TRD (or any) body kit - fitment process to follow
2010/07/21 23:42:56
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LINK TO SALE PARTS
http://www.mr2australia.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21111
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