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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo
2013/10/11 20:57:38
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo
2013/10/11 21:23:39
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At a guess, maybe 3 weeks or so.
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo
2013/10/11 21:43:54
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Since you haven't ordered yet, maybe I'll chime in before you chuck another signature Rob :) From what I understand, the 6262 makes a bit more power than the gt3582r, but is noticeably less responsive on the street & makes less midrange. Nothing in turboland comes free. The 0.82 rear would make it larger & a bit less responsive than my GT3582R on your motor (larger inducer I believe). Not sure if that's a good idea for your setup considering your 2L displacement, block & rpm limitations. You'll undoubtedly make more power (still a great turbo), but IMO it will not make for the greatest drive. That turbo on a 2.3L 4G63 is brutal past 5000rpm, so I can only imagine a 2500-2700rpm power band for you (approx 5400-8000rpm). Josh from the States ran that turbo off a 5SGTE which spun past 9000rpm with significantly more boost than you can run. I'd consider that a nice match, but I think yours won't quite be. I'm prolly off on the spool calculation but you get the general idea. Don't wanna burst your bubble, but I'd suggest you to reconsider. Maybe try the GT3082 first or downsize to a 0.63 A/R 6262. I think you'd get well over 350rwkw on e85 with the 0.82 6262 if on dyno dynamics.
post edited by MR2QIK - 2013/10/11 22:10:01
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo
2013/10/11 22:11:01
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo
2013/10/11 22:11:01
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo
2013/10/11 22:36:38
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Haha Jay! I'm sure I've read all of the same info that you have read yourself. I've actually been constantly thinking and researching this for the last few months and trying to resist, but this week I gave in and decided that I could do better than my current turbo. One important thing to remember is that my current turbo is already quite laggy for the power it's providing, because it has a relatively small turbine trying to spin a big compressor. I'm totally used to the response and lag and it doesn't bother me at all, therefore I don't 'need' better response. It's not too late for me to change my mind.
post edited by robk - 2013/10/16 16:49:17
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo
2013/10/11 22:53:02
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How much to change the turbine? Maybe a better option considering the quality of the Garrett product. Especially if cheaper. I'm sure you've read on the component differences between the two. I do think you will notice the lag difference though. Prolly not massive, but you will notice it. Personally, would be too much trade for me, but you're not me :) haha! If they've already done some tuning, can't you take it for a quick drive now?
post edited by MR2QIK - 2013/10/11 23:09:20
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo
2013/10/14 15:26:15
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Well folks, here we go, the FINAL decision, and I've officially ORDERED this turbo... GTX3076R with 0.82 A/R turbine housing. I couldn't be more happy with this choice, and I'm so excited to see how it goes!  I was never 100% comfortable with any of my previous 'final decisions' regarding a turbo upgrade, but I'm very comfortable with my choice this time. I had actually been considering this turbo for the last few months, it was always in the back of my mind. It's quite a momentous occasion because, for the first time ever, MR2QIK agrees with a choice I've made hahaha. (not that Jay's opinion is any more or less valuable than other's of course  I always take everyone's input into consideration and weigh up all the pros and cons...which is why I go around in circles with my decisions so often).
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo
2013/10/14 16:48:14
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Good decision Rob! I also like that turbo and I've read a few articles on comparing it to a normal GT3076 through some dyno testing on an STi ( http://blogperrinperformance.com/?p=263 Part 1 is linked on that page too). I'm also very keen on seeing how it runs on the e85 with 20+ psi, and how it compares to your original GT3082 with the new gear (injectors, inlet mani, etc.), be able to compare the difference between the two. Probably almost as excited as you haha.
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo
2013/10/14 18:22:10
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I think the 0.82 A/R exhaust housing will possibly make the most difference on 98 fuel, but the GTX turbo as a whole will really shine on E85 with more boost as you mentioned.
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo
2013/10/14 19:11:57
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good choice. ive pushed gtx3076 turbos on evos to about 330awkw on pump e85 a few times, so it should be more than enough. I also have issue with precision turbos being oil only, its asking for trouble with the lack of airflow around the turbo on an mr2.
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo
2013/10/14 21:05:06
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Pretty much the "optimum" 2L 3S setup IMO. All top quality gear & all complimenting each other well. Good job. Suggest they tinker with the cam timing while they're at it so as to leave no stone unturned.
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo
2013/10/15 14:53:19
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Here it is, GTX3076R with 0.82 A/R turbine housing: *EDIT*: It proved to be too difficult to modify the dump pipe, so the turbine housing has been changed to a 4 bolt instead, but still 0.82 A/R.
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo
2013/10/15 15:25:06
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**** my build in 95% the same as yours, although I started 1 year ago and its complete apart from a LSD drive shaft, I should really put up a build thread after 4 years of crazy mods I also run a GTX3076r but with .63 housing, I too debated for ages on what housing would be the right size. At the start I was keen on the 0.82, then when I read what 4G63's were pushing with the GTX3071r and GTX3076r's on the .63 housings, that was when I started to do more research. I found on ATS racings website that Kevin cracked 417rwkw on a GT3040 with .63 turbine, I mean maybe take a few killer wasps off that figure due to a dyno in the US being different with sea level and the aggressive tuning but that is a very impressive figure for such a small turbine and 8500rpm redline. In the end I wanted good streetable power throughout the whole rev range so I went for the .63 but I look forward to your car being finished and mine, it would be great to compare the two turbos on such similar builds.
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo
2013/10/17 11:54:15
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Hey Rob, With your brakes, did you have to change your master cylinder to accommodate for the larger disks/calipers. If you did, what did you use?
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