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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo 2010/10/10 18:47:15 (permalink)
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Rob, mate that looks absolutely freaking fantastic! I'm especially impressed with the use of black paint and hoses etc instead of the usual blue / red / whatever that always looks so tacked on. Tho a guy with your level of attention to detail i should expect this sort of beautiful result. Reminds me of some of the photos of your model car engine bays you showed me :) Cant wait to see it!



Thanks heaps Ben!!
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo 2010/10/10 21:32:58 (permalink)
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Rob, mate that looks absolutely freaking fantastic! I'm especially impressed with the use of black paint and hoses etc instead of the usual blue / red / whatever that always looks so tacked on.

+1

The engine bay is looking purpose built, not an ounce of rice to be seen. Of course with that exhaust manifold it wouldn't matter what else is in there, it'd still look great!!

Keep the pics coming, and keep up the top notch work.
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo 2010/10/10 21:48:54 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Jaemus

Rob, mate that looks absolutely freaking fantastic! I'm especially impressed with the use of black paint and hoses etc instead of the usual blue / red / whatever that always looks so tacked on.

+1

The engine bay is looking purpose built, not an ounce of rice to be seen. Of course with that exhaust manifold it wouldn't matter what else is in there, it'd still look great!!

Keep the pics coming, and keep up the top notch work.



[:I] Thanks cogs! I've put almost as much focus on the overall appearance of the engine bay as I have on the performance. That wasn't the original plan, and it did add to the cost (for example, the motivation behind some of the ceramic coating is 90% appearance and 10% performance), but it makes the whole rebuild process seem more worthwhile when the engine bay looks good

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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo 2010/11/10 11:49:58 (permalink)
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Very cool build! I like your attention to detail! this car will be a weapon when its all done.
[:x)]

You WILL want a Quaife, trust me (and Senol)! an open wheeler p1sses me off now and my engine is fairly standard...the novelty of smoking up one wheel all the time and stodgy handling under power does wear off!! lol [:p]

Remember: A good LSD should be on top of your list as you add more power to the car. You want to put that power down on the pavement, don't you?
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo 2010/11/10 23:16:43 (permalink)
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Very cool build! I like your attention to detail! this car will be a weapon when its all done.
[:x)]

You WILL want a Quaife, trust me (and Senol)! an open wheeler p1sses me off now and my engine is fairly standard...the novelty of smoking up one wheel all the time and stodgy handling under power does wear off!! lol [:p]

Remember: A good LSD should be on top of your list as you add more power to the car. You want to put that power down on the pavement, don't you?



I can't remember if I mentioned this already, but I lose my license for 6 months on the 26th of this month, and I'm going to be lucky to even drive my MR2 before then [8~2] I certainly won't be able to do anything more than the boring run-in period with minimal boost. I knew the license suspension was coming (I delayed it for as long as I could by waiting for a penalty reminder notice before paying the fine lol), and I was in the middle of a 2 week Japan holiday when my mechanic was ready to put the engine back in, and I hadn't sorted out the LSD at that point, so I had to tell him to put the engine in straight away rather than wasting time waiting for an LSD to arrive etc. So, basically my mech is trying to get my car ready to be run-in before the 26th, but it's still quite possible that there won't be enough time.
At least I'll have 6 months to fully dyno tune the car, and fit my Phoenix Power rear corners and Aeroware lip when it arrives! I might buy a Quaife LSD and have it fitted during that time too. I'll also have plenty of time to give my car an awesome wash and detail, so I can at least enjoy looking at the car haha.
I might also take it to the track during that time, if possible.
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo 2010/10/20 20:11:16 (permalink)
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Finally some more progress!
Lots of small things have happened in the last week or so, and there is a possibility that I'll be able to start setting up the Adaptronic e1280s ECU and start the car before the end of the week fingers crossed!

The following has been completed since my last update:
- New spark plug leads fitted
- Filler neck fitted for W2A system
- Oil catch can fitted
- BOV fitted
- Pod filter fitted
- New custom harmonic balancer fitted
- 3 bar MAP sensor fitted
- Fuel pressure regulator fitted and plumbed in
- Boost control solenoid fitted and plumbed in
- A/C compressor re-fitted
- X-brace re-painted in black (not fitted yet)
- Most hose clamps fitted (happy Surok?)

All that's left is for me to wire up the pump/fans/sensors for the W2A system (not vital to start the car of course), and there may be a few very small things for my mechanic to finish too.





'D1 Spec' oil catch can:


MSD 3 bar MAP sensor in place of stock MAP sensor, and filler neck for W2A IC system (notice the water temperature sensor which was custom fitted):


External wastegate plumbing:


MAC boost control solenoid valve:


Turbosmart fuel pressure regulator:


Turbosmart plumb-back BOV (the BOV itself isn't really visible, but you can see how it plumbs back very neatly):


Big intake pipe/hose from pod filter:


Looking up into left side vent, showing the pod filter location:


This one is just to show what I mean when I say that I get to watch the progress very closely every day while I'm at work (that's my office window on the second level of the building, with my car on the hoist :


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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo 2010/10/20 21:17:10 (permalink)
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Looking great!! Love the view from your desk. If it was me sitting there, I think the cleaners would complain from having to constantly clean up the drool...

cheers
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo 2010/10/21 23:20:54 (permalink)
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Thanks!
My mech keeps laughing at me for taking so many photos, but then he'll always say "nah I'm just kidding, I would too". lol
I've caught him taking photos of it too haha, I don't blame him, he has done an amazing job with the car and I'm sure he is proud of it.

The car will definitely be started next week if not tomorrow, but I've concluded that there is no way I'm going to get to drive the car before I lose my license on tuesday. At least I can just take my time with it now. I was worried that I wouldn't get to run it in and therefore I wouldn't be able to do any proper tuning for the whole 6 months, but my mech informed me that I can run it in by spending quite a few hours on his dyno after hours. Also, he offered for me to spend as much time as I want on his dyno (next door to where I work) while he is away for a whole week at the SEMA show in the US in a few weeks! I'm still very much a beginner with using dynos (his is Dyno Dynamics), but I've played around with my car on his dyno before a little bit, and I won't be doing any full power runs until he gets back from the US.

I can't wait to finally do some power runs after that and see what it can do! Then it will be off to WSID and track days I hope!
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo 2010/10/21 23:51:14 (permalink)
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Run it in on the dyno;)
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo 2010/10/22 00:44:07 (permalink)
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Progress is looking awesome Rob. Will be delighted to see this on the road.
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo 2010/10/22 08:45:16 (permalink)
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DYno run ins are better :D

Can plan out the whole run in process without having to worry about traffic and speedhumps and cars.

I would be VERY SERIOUSLY looking at how you plan on running it in. Not to open a can of worms here but you can thrash it or you can be gentle to run it in - 2 very opposing theories to achieve the same goal.. wierd huh.
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo 2010/10/22 09:36:34 (permalink)
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i think it will need a "monthly meet road tuning and datalogging drive" in december.
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo 2010/10/22 10:26:54 (permalink)
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Dylan: Thanks, it won't be on public roads for 6 months (except when I let others drive it), but I certainly look forward to driving it myself in 6 months!
Bionikal: I'll probably do it using the gentle dyno run-in method, according to what my mech said.
Surok: As as soon as it's fully tuned I'll be keen for someone to drive me to the monthly meets in my car.
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo 2010/10/22 12:41:03 (permalink)
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There's a good reason for the running in 'paradox.' It's important to get pressure behind the rings to aid them bedding in to the bores quickly, but also to not load up the bearings excessively and risk galling on any high spots. High ring pressure is obtained with high throttle, low RPM conditions, and if this is not done soon after its first warm up the bores will glaze due to the heat of excessive blow-by gasses. Engine speed is a significant factor in bearing loads, accelerating and decelerating the pistons takes progressively higher forces at higher speeds, so it's also important to keep RPMs down during run-in. Varying speeds and not sitting at one speed for extended periods (including idle) ensures that oil splash is as random as possible and properly distributed to all splash fed parts.

Bottom line, short periods of high load, keep RPM under half redline, and vary speeds constantly.
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RE: robk's MR2 Turbo 2010/10/22 13:06:23 (permalink)
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When I did mine, the mech ran in the first 50kms for me to prevent glazing, as cogs said. After that he just recommended non-traffic driving high load, low RPM for another 100-200km and then after that, there's not real right way to do it.
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