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Re: MR2 Intemitted Stalling
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 3:43 AM
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Trouble is it could be several things - bad sensor, or sensor connections, Just some background - how long does it take to come up to "normal" temp? (needle at 9 o'clock). Mine takes 2-3 mins of sedate driving. Have you set/checked the ignition timing? Fuel supply is unlikely to random, but more about the greater the demand, the greater the problem. Loose connections, and as someone suggested, the low tension wires feedign the distributor...mine had cracked insulation and were shorting out their 5v intermittently. Once spotted, cleaned and taped up - problem gone. Perhaps even a cracked lead to a sparkplug arcing to the engine might be enough to stop the engine with no throttle ?? Oil seal in the distributor !! Quite a few things to work through...
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Re: MR2 Intemitted Stalling
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:15 AM
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Since I had rebuilt it I replaced all the leads etc. Im thinking there could be a fault in my distributor as I never replaced it & it looks pretty horrible tbh. My ECU is an uncommon one according to Josh @ the MR2 Wreckers and is quite expensive. Maybe I just ditch the Dizzy and go a microtech with coils http://microtechefi.com/product/lt-9c-with-x4-coils-package/
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Re: MR2 Intemitted Stalling
Saturday, October 19, 2019 0:30 PM
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Alright so I pulled the ECU today and these is what I found.
Firstly it smelt really bad when I opened it up. Dont know if this is usually common but yeah. - On of the capacitors had some black residue at the bottom which ive attached a photo of. - The board itself looked quite clean with no obvious signs of burning or major damage - The case had a slight dint in it, which on closer inspection had black dust on the inside. Maybe it was touching the board at points? Other than that the board seemed quite clean. I've attached some more photos - if any of you guys could have a look and see if theres anything glaring that ive missed? Jarrad
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Re: MR2 Intemitted Stalling
Saturday, October 19, 2019 0:49 PM
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☄ Helpfulby Hyldnir Saturday, October 19, 2019 0:58 PM
The capacitor in the first photo is shot. As some one else said look for other caps that look swollen and replace them. Its a easy job to replace them if you have a solder sucker. I am in Sydney if you need any help.
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Re: MR2 Intemitted Stalling
Saturday, October 19, 2019 1:01 AM
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kojab The capacitor in the first photo is shot. As some one else said look for other caps that look swollen and replace them. Its a easy job to replace them if you have a solder sucker. I am in Sydney if you need any help.
Yeah I live around 4hrs west of Sydney. I'm not real confident with electronics, so id rather get someone who knwos what there doing to do it.
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Re: MR2 Intemitted Stalling
Saturday, October 19, 2019 1:36 AM
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Don't worry about replacing it yet.
Open both sides fold the smaller board back and inspect the other capacitors.
Clean the board with isopropil(?) Alcohol but I used nail polish remover to get rid of the black ****.
Put back in car. If no idle problems then you have your issue. I'd say you've got a few more with larger black marks on board.
Once you have identified it's the issue then get them replaced. It's fairly easy but can pay someone also.
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Re: MR2 Intemitted Stalling
Saturday, October 19, 2019 1:45 AM
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W34PN Don't worry about replacing it yet.
Open both sides fold the smaller board back and inspect the other capacitors.
Clean the board with isopropil(?) Alcohol but I used nail polish remover to get rid of the black ****.
Put back in car. If no idle problems then you have your issue. I'd say you've got a few more with larger black marks on board.
Once you have identified it's the issue then get them replaced. It's fairly easy but can pay someone also.
My idle problems have been fixed since I replaced my fauly O2 sensor. Now its just the stalling when it gets warm.
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Re: MR2 Intemitted Stalling
Saturday, October 19, 2019 1:48 AM
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That's exactly what the car I have does. It wouldn't start at first until I cleaned the board. Now when the ecu heats up from engine temps it stalls. I still have no changed capacitors but have identified that as the problem by cleaning the board.
Alternatively you could disconnect the ecu from the car firewall. Run a ground to its body and see if your problem persists when hot. Not sure if will work but potentially a option.
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Re: MR2 Intemitted Stalling
Saturday, October 19, 2019 3:32 AM
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I just googled MR2 C810 and bingo. If you search also for the ECU caps in the MR2, there are hits which list the dozen or so. These can be ordered from Element14, or RS or.... for a few bucks. Then take the board to some electronics guy in your area and ask him to replace all the electrolytics. He will clean the boards and make any other observations. Google will have everything you need.
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Re: MR2 Intemitted Stalling
Monday, October 21, 2019 0:38 PM
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Re: MR2 Intemitted Stalling
Monday, October 21, 2019 5:07 AM
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Reddtarga Anyone with suspected ECU capacitor problems should check out: (Especially the last page) https://www.mr2australia.com/mr2play/tm.aspx?m=138518&mpage=8
Thanks ReddTarga, I have a known good ECU coming for testing. If all goes well Ill try and contact Michael from that thread. Unfortunately all his websites are gone now, so he might be out of the game.
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Re: MR2 Intemitted Stalling
Monday, October 28, 2019 8:40 AM
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Okay new ECU is in (not new but known working). Car is a lot smoother on cold start, hasnt stalled yet!!! (YET). Only thing I noticed is that I'm only getting 7PSI now, whereas before I was getting 10PSI? Would my old ECU been causing some over fuelling or something? From what I read on MR2OC is that Gen2 wastegate PSI should be 7 or so (not sure how accurate that is)
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Re: MR2 Intemitted Stalling
Monday, October 28, 2019 1:39 PM
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The bleed system (TVSV) which enables the 3sgte to boost beyond the wastegate spring pressure (7 psi) is turned on by the ECU. Commonly, not boosting properly is not the ECU, as other things can lose boost pressure, but since all you did was swap the ECUs, then I would put the old one back, just to see if the boost changes. This other ECU which has been supplied, was that car boosting ok ? You may end up just getting your old ECU recapped.
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Re: MR2 Intemitted Stalling
Tuesday, October 29, 2019 1:53 AM
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The ECU was known to working correctly when it was installed into the other vehicle. It also makes boost fine - its just less than the old ECU. Also I ant find anyone to do the recapping?
post edited by Hyldnir - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 1:58 AM
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Re: MR2 Intemitted Stalling
Tuesday, October 29, 2019 2:20 AM
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Any electronics repair guy can do it. Like a hifi repairman, someone who repairs microwaves or tv's, doesn't have to be auto electrician. As for the borrowed ECU, if it used to control the other car's TVSV correctly, and your original ECU used to control your TVSV to boost >7psi, then we have something else strange going on.
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