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Dash Recovering
I have got my dash in the trimmers at the minute getting recovered in micro suede
He is having an issue with the glue not going off because of the plasticiser in the Vinyl
Does anyone on here have experience with this and can recommend a glue that works
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Re: Dash Recovering
2016/02/04 18:07:00
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Any normal contact adhesive that a trimmer would use is fine. The surface preparation is the key as well as not asking the suede to do too much.
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Re: Dash Recovering
2016/02/04 21:47:15
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he has tried 2 different glues and they are sticking fine to the plastic trims with lots of contours but the vinyl dash top is not working out, the glue is not biting in so it is lifting
It has been cleaned multiple times with isopropyl and sanded to key it.
I have owned car for 12 years and never put armoral or any other product on it so it has to be the plasticiser leaching out
This is a reputable trimmer but he has never had one this bad before :(
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Re: Dash Recovering
2016/02/04 21:58:41
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Do you know what glue he has been using?
Where abouts is it lifting?
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Re: Dash Recovering
2016/02/05 01:58:58
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It's lifting on the top part of the dash, just where it curves into the binnacle area, and it is barely stretched in that part
I will check tomorrow what glue he has tried
I did a bit of reading online and it seems there are glues that are more resistant to plasticiser migration, that is why I thought this was the issue
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Re: Dash Recovering
2016/02/05 02:00:24
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And this is what it looked like until we had to peel it back off
It was only on for a week :(
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Re: Dash Recovering
2016/02/05 09:49:22
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How well will the micro suede resist fading from the sunlight coming through the windscreen?
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Re: Dash Recovering
2016/02/05 10:14:27
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TomsMR2
And this is what it looked like until we had to peel it back off
It was only on for a week :(
WOW... that looks great. Hopefully you get the gluing sorted out.. nice job, love the red stitching too ;-)
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Re: Dash Recovering
2016/02/05 10:50:55
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It will resist fading very well according to trimmer
In fact he refused to use genuine Alcantara as he said it cannot handle our extreme conditions here
I hope to find a glue this week and get it recovered again next week
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Re: Dash Recovering
2016/02/05 14:40:58
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The glue I'm using at the moment is just from a local company that has it made overseas. They are called Vyfab, but I doubt that your trimmer would want to order it from Victoria.
There is a company that are also in WA called Nolan UDA that I used to buy glue from.
As long as the suede is UV stabilized it will last fine witch seams like what your trimmer is using. Most suede available is for furniture witch is not UV stabilized
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Re: Dash Recovering
2016/02/05 19:04:32
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I asked the trimmer to call Nolan UDA and they are going to do some research and get back to him
He is currently using Bostik 2701
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Re: Dash Recovering
2016/02/05 21:20:59
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So it sounds like it's sticking to most of the dash except for a little bit?
Maybe another option if you haven't already stripped the dash is he can use a syringe to inject super glue where it has lifted. Will need to make multiple incisions and just a drop at a time.
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Re: Dash Recovering
2016/02/05 21:37:43
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I used to use the Bostic 2701 before I changed to the current glue from Vyfab.
The main reason I changed was just because it's a little cheaper, and the sales rep keep pushing me to try it.
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Re: Dash Recovering
2016/02/05 21:41:41
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So have you ever covered an SW20 dash?
I came across a thread in the UK site Twobrutal where someone had to get their Alcantara dash redone due to the same issue
BTW the suede is Warwick Microsuede, looked it up and it doesn't specifically say for automotive but the trimmer swears by it
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Re: Dash Recovering
2016/02/05 22:58:58
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Yes I have covered my dash before and are currently trimming the car again. When I first done it I just used furniture suede and it didn't last long before fading.
As far as I know the Warrick is furniture, but I could be wrong. One way to test is get a scrap and put it in window and check against another piece that hasn't been in the sun after a couple of months
The pictures are from when I first finished it
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