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zzw30R - Transmission Issues
Hi Guys,
I have very recently purchased a used Toyota MR2 Spyder 2000 Sequential Manual from the RAC driving centre (unregistered) at 30 000 kms. I have since passed registration however, the vehicle has an intermittent issue with the transmission (which is the stock 5-Speed Sequential). I have taken her to a Toyota dealer who performed a diagnostic and found the following error codes:
P1646 - Transmission ECU Malfunction
P1647 - Car Communication Malfunction
P1882 - M/T Code Shift Sensor Malfunction
When cruising normally in 4th gear at approx 60kmph (no high rev transitions or labouring engine) the smt warning light appears and the car will not allow any gearshifts up or down using neither the steering wheel shifter buttons nor the shift lever. There are no clunks or abnormal noises. The car is still able to drive in 4th however, the car stalls once the car comes to a standstill (then the check engine light comes on). The car will not register as being back to neutral until the key is placed in the off position and then put back on. The engine then starts as normal with no error lights showing.
To fix this we got the Toyota dealer to carry out a transmission fluid flush (with the correct synthetic oil as this was a suggested fix on some forums) and a 30000 km service was completed - no other issues were found.
The problem still persists.
I was looking to see if you guys had any experience with this issue or other similar issues and what you would suggest to remedy or diagnose the issue as it is a wonderful car to drive!
Many thanks in advance for any help you may be able to provide!
Callum
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Re: zzw30R - Transmission Issues
2015/04/16 20:12:25
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I had similar issues and it most likely will be the sensor, seems when sensors have issues it throws Ecu & tcu codes. I'll look in the bgb on your codes for troubleshooting and if it's easy to change the sensor!
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Re: zzw30R - Transmission Issues
2015/04/17 00:57:37
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Thanks that would be amazing! We'll be heading down to Toyota to order the replacement sensor over the next few days, if you could identify the specific name/any further detail as to how difficult it would be to fit that'll be excellent
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Re: zzw30R - Transmission Issues
2015/04/17 10:59:31
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So had a look and p1882 comes up as shift stroke sensor, which is at the back of the gsa which is behind the hpu. First picture is of the gsa, then of the gsa sensors and last one on how to change it.  .jpg) .jpg) Hope this helps, all 3 stroke sensors are the same, and you'll need sequential m/t grease not the same as fluid! You can look up part number at toyodiy.com
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Re: zzw30R - Transmission Issues
2015/04/19 13:27:41
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Thankyou so much! I've been in contact with Toyota who appear to have no idea further driving suggests that the problem occurs in gears other than fourth but always when sitting on a specific rpm for an extended duration: 5 seconds or greater (approx 2200 rpm)
Does this still support a faulty gear shift sensor or could it be something else also?
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Re: zzw30R - Transmission Issues
2015/04/19 17:55:36
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i couldn't say, i googled your code and not enough consistent issues to confirm. some say it skips 4th gear straight to 5th or don't get any forward gears only reverse or it stalls.
To confirm if it is the sensor they've swapped it with clutch sensor to see if it throws the code.
Toyota dont seem to have many experts on the smt but rather follow what the computer tells them.
Terry at road and track in qld has plenty of experiance with the smt, an ex spyder owner in sydney went to castle hill toyota a few years back and they seemed to know there stuff and heard parramatta toyota does too.
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Re: zzw30R - Transmission Issues
2016/04/30 16:45:52
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Hi My 2002 MR2 spyder has been having intermittent problem of engaging reverse gear. Now completely cannot engage reverse, and it bleeps and can hear thumping sound as if its trying to engage. Others gears are ok and there is no smt fluid leak. Hv checked fluid levels and they are ok.
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Re: zzw30R - Transmission Issues
2016/04/30 21:43:18
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hmmm i have read a few people over in the states having similar issues and it was the tcu (transmission control unit)
First thing check is a light showing on dash board like this ( ! ) this would mean a code is being thrown and get that checked.
Next if no code
Try a full relearn which would mean either get a obd2 reader with techstream and it will completely relearn all the gears and wipe all the data to start fresh! Or you can go to Toyota to do this too!
Before you start changing anything!
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Re: zzw30R - Transmission Issues
2016/04/30 21:44:38
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You can read more on what others do jump on spyderchat.com more of us on there
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Re: zzw30R - Transmission Issues
2016/05/01 21:25:56
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Aussiespyder is completely correct. Forst step that needs to be done by a toyota dealer is a full relearn. As clutches wear time goes on, a relearn needs to be done. This is one of the most common issues, and if not sorted out in a reasonable time can also cause compunding issues.
The most common reason a transmission ecu ever failed in one of these cars was a roof leak. The car you bought doesnt have any roof issues does it? As the ecu and tcu are bot located under the passengers side storage bin, which is a location prone to moisture collection, which as you can imagine causes issues with electronic components.
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Re: zzw30R - Transmission Issues
2016/05/03 08:37:08
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Having trouble with zzw30r 5 speed sequential gearbox 2000 model not going into 3rd gear at times just producing out of mesh squeal. Other times going into 3rd ok but seems slow. Would appreciate what you people think about this to work out what i should do thank you for your help in this matter.
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Re: zzw30R - Transmission Issues
2016/05/03 10:19:03
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Titch try a clutch friction relearn first before trying a full relearn, as the tcu picks up on how the driver drives and they may have not of been shifting right!
Disconnect your battery for a couple of hours then reconnect
1. Warm up your car, until coolant temp guage is horizontal
2. On a straight stretch of road, put car into 1st and start moving
3. At an appropriate point, shift directly from 1st into 3rd
4. On 3rd, rev engine to over 3000rpm, then lift off throttle. Let car coast and rpm drop (without applying breaks) to below 3000rpm and downshift into
2nd. Again, let car coast in 2nd until rpm below 2000rpm.
5. Apply break and stop car.
Repeat steps 1 through 5 three times.
See if that helps at all.
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Re: zzw30R - Transmission Issues
2016/05/23 09:37:08
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Thank you Aussiespyder for your suggestion. I tried but car will not go into 3rd gear to be able to relearn now. Other gears ok no problems.I will take car to toyota dealer in newcastle nsw so they can hook up to computor to look at fault.Not sure what toyota workshop might be best to go in newcastle for smt gearboxes would appreciat advice.
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Re: zzw30R - Transmission Issues
2016/06/20 10:12:39
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spyder test drive by mechanic caused him to beleive there is a problem inside gearbox on 3rd gear.He stated it was a good idea to get a low kilometer smt transmission and replace the one in car. I have been told hydraulic fluid could cause a lot of problems . to check level you need to reduce pressure to zero in accumulator by using the diagnostic tester but i do not have one can some one tell me of another way
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Re: zzw30R - Transmission Issues
2016/06/20 10:49:52
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CallumMac
Hi Guys,
I have very recently purchased a used Toyota MR2 Spyder 2000 Sequential Manual from the RAC driving centre (unregistered) at 30 000 kms. I have since passed registration however, the vehicle has an intermittent issue with the transmission (which is the stock 5-Speed Sequential). I have taken her to a Toyota dealer who performed a diagnostic and found the following error codes:
P1646 - Transmission ECU Malfunction
P1647 - Car Communication Malfunction
P1882 - M/T Code Shift Sensor Malfunction
When cruising normally in 4th gear at approx 60kmph (no high rev transitions or labouring engine) the smt warning light appears and the car will not allow any gearshifts up or down using neither the steering wheel shifter buttons nor the shift lever. There are no clunks or abnormal noises. The car is still able to drive in 4th however, the car stalls once the car comes to a standstill (then the check engine light comes on). The car will not register as being back to neutral until the key is placed in the off position and then put back on. The engine then starts as normal with no error lights showing.
To fix this we got the Toyota dealer to carry out a transmission fluid flush (with the correct synthetic oil as this was a suggested fix on some forums) and a 30000 km service was completed - no other issues were found.
The problem still persists.
I was looking to see if you guys had any experience with this issue or other similar issues and what you would suggest to remedy or diagnose the issue as it is a wonderful car to drive!
Many thanks in advance for any help you may be able to provide!
Callum
WHATTTT... transmission issues with a zzw30.. who'd ever thought? Toyota really went wrong with this one. Hope you get it sorted mate :-)
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