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Re: AW11 track ready 16v Smallport... 2015/03/26 11:19:50 (permalink)
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Yes, I can put something together if we have enough AW. The key is keeping all the cars within a set state of overall tune. The problem is the big gap with street and mod street.
You can have a class with mild tune on stock tyre or mild tune on bigger tyre which is easier to source, or use a group buy on a set tyre to save some money. So, if there are 6-10 from all over the place a group buy for 205/225/45/16 tyres or specify a select tyre for a class. It could be a great way to save money and keep and even playing field. Something to think about.
The turnout of the Eastern states in 2015 was a good balance of cars aside from the low number of Spyder but as they are more expensive and not really used too often for trackwork, its understandable.
There are a number of SW and AW who could not make it due to cars still off the road but these owners are expected to make the trip in 2016. There were 16 (I think) cars at the Wednesday night meet after MTC. It would have good to see some of these owners make the trip but I believe all were back at work.
If MTC was run on the Sunday Monday, it would have greater numbers but I don't think we need too many more entrants. More staff is required for more people to enter but it would cost more money and I do not want to push the cost up if possible.
As you guys well know I have huge admiration for your solid approach to no bs, and getting to the track and having some fun. Not to mention the trip to NSW the last few years.
I will be coming over this year which is one NSW car to come and drive your track. Certainly looking forward to the trip.  
 
 
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Re: AW11 track ready 16v Smallport... 2015/03/26 13:13:47 (permalink)
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For an MTC AW11 NA 1.6L class, just run a 205/50R15 control tire size with a 140+ tread rating.
However you still run into the issue of motors control. Smallport and 20V are all engine swaps from non-AW11 cars and do have an advantage over the bigport, so you either have to limit everyone to bigports or open it up to all 4AGE motors regardless of origin (car) and look at other limiting methods.
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Re: AW11 track ready 16v Smallport... 2015/03/26 14:45:38 (permalink)
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For an MTC AW11 NA 1.6L class, just run a 205/50R15 control tire size with a 140+ tread rating.
However you still run into the issue of motors control. Smallport and 20V are all engine swaps from non-AW11 cars and do have an advantage over the bigport, so you either have to limit everyone to bigports or open it up to all 4AGE motors regardless of origin (car) and look at other limiting methods.




I think in order to get the numbers if starting a class, just open to any AW11 to begin with, irrelavant of its engine, tires, etc, etc.
If you get the numbers (enough) then look at limiting controls, hp, registered etc.  Just get an AW11 class first.  Just my 2c worth.
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Re: AW11 track ready 16v Smallport... 2015/03/26 14:49:16 (permalink)
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I wasn't meaning to have a go at the Eastern states guys (sorry if it came across that way)... i doubt i'd travel to Mallala from NSW myself, knowing how good Wakefield is lol. I'm just proud of the enthusiasm and effort of the SA guys... We can't be bothered having a formal state club (probably too lazy lol), but we still get together to have fun!
I really appreciate the effort you put into MTC for all of us. Thanks Steve!
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Re: AW11 track ready 16v Smallport... 2015/03/26 15:00:08 (permalink)
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^^ very well said Rick, you speak for all of us.
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Re: AW11 track ready 16v Smallport... 2015/03/26 15:26:16 (permalink)
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^^ very well said Rick, you speak for all of us.


Hey Mike, i'm also really appreciative of the support that you and the other SA guys have given me since i bought my SDub a year ago. It's a great little MR2 community in SA!
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Re: AW11 track ready 16v Smallport... 2015/03/27 07:26:04 (permalink)
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Awesome work on the AW11 track hack so far dude.

black AW11 4age - road registered track hack
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Re: AW11 track ready 16v Smallport... 2015/03/27 09:36:36 (permalink)
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I guess if you wanted to make a 1.6l class you could run something like the evo nats class system and the vic wrx club, where you have a points system, and once you exceed that number of points you move up to the next class. You dont necessarily need a control tyre, have a maximum tyre ie. 205width and 140treadwear rating, so people can run smaller tyres, and dont have to have to buy a set tyre to compete. Point system could work like:
- bigport 0
- smallport +1
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- swaybars +.5 each axle
- headers (other than oem) +1
- catback +1
- caliper change +3
- spring and strut change +2
- coilovers +5
- intake modification +1
- aftermarket bracing +1
- weight reduction +1 - +3 (depending on extent)
- aftermarket ecu or piggyback = up to street 2l

Oil coolers, saftey mods and other things wouldnt count as a point system. Then cap a limit of points allowed before a car is moved up to the next class.

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Re: AW11 track ready 16v Smallport... 2015/03/27 09:42:58 (permalink)
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I wouldnt do an aw11 class regardless of mods, as the you could have everything from a stock Na t top to kens widened aw11 turbo with its new owner in the same class.

Or even if i were to come down and run in that class (if i come down i think im meant to be in modified street), with my full interior daily driver with 400+hp, it wouldnt really be fair.

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Re: AW11 track ready 16v Smallport... 2015/03/27 10:00:52 (permalink)
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I think the existing stock class worked pretty well, It was hard for me in my SW20 to keep up with Rob in the AW11.
I might have had the power on the straight, but the AW11's cornering ability was amazing with decent tyres on!
The classification of cars was left up to the owners though, which had some cars with bigger wheels/tyres and coilovers
competing with cars in the stock class. Unfortunately Steve had enough to deal with, so scrutineering wasn't reallly possible at the time. Adding a points system for mods would make running the whole show even more difficult. I'd love to help Steve run things on the day, but like everyone else i want to get out on the track! I'm hoping my partner can come along next year to help out... 
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Re: AW11 track ready 16v Smallport... 2015/03/27 21:42:46 (permalink)
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I think if there were an AW only class it would need to be strictly limited to 1.6 litre only and no artificial forced induction. In reality even if they're 20v or 16v small or bigport they're all roughly the same. They'd be very even and it would prove for good entertaining racing. I'd love to see 8 - 10 AWs screaming around Wakefield all at once. You could maybe add a handicap for people who have gone to extreme lengths with weight reduction but other than some rules on tyres it's best to keep it simple.
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Re: AW11 track ready 16v Smallport... 2015/07/20 10:24:25 (permalink)
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Small update:
 
Fitted nolathane bushes all round..

 
 
Got some new 15' MRS wheels for the adub.

 
From this........


 
Too this....



 
With these new wheels & tires I have reduced each wheel & tire weight from 22.5kg to only 17kg... THAT's a huge reduction of 5.5kg per corner.  (Total weight saving of 22kg :-))))
 
Not that I had any braking issues with this car, but hopefully I will notice a difference now on track... will have to wait now till next Mallala track day in September.
 
In the mean time, I will have some new 595RSR's fitted.
post edited by Carmikey - 2015/07/21 11:43:59
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Re: AW11 track ready 16v Smallport... 2015/07/20 10:33:26 (permalink)
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Muuuuch better! 17" on an Adub is blasphemy in my opinion. Especially for track work. ;)
You'll notice the difference for sure!
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Re: AW11 track ready 16v Smallport... 2015/07/20 13:20:24 (permalink)
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Removing 22kg of rotational mass and unsprung weight should be quite noticeable :)
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Re: AW11 track ready 16v Smallport... 2015/11/10 12:02:34 (permalink)
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Well.... after the last track day in Sep, the gearbox finally shat itself.  Time to install a new one so its ready for MTC 2016.  I'd better get onto it.
 
Ready for its new gearbox.  Just gotta modify another smallport C52 to change the gear linkage shaft input around the other way.
 

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