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AW11 Rubber Bush options
Hi All, Just wondering what are our options in replacing all the suspension bushes in the adub? I've searched the net for quite sometime now and it appears you cannot purchase all of the suspension bushes from Toyota, nor are there aftermarket options which offer rubber bush. I did find Cusco offers hyper rubber bush that are wrapped in a metal jacket however i don't have faith in it as there is barely anything information about them. I'm also not really keen on poly bushes either but it seems like a lot of people are simply choosing poly bushes because its whats available. If this is the only option does anyone know which brand offers the softest bushings? Anything close to OEM would be fantastic. Cheers
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Re: AW11 Rubber Bush options
2014/10/22 02:22:09
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Re: AW11 Rubber Bush options
2014/10/22 07:46:52
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Yes I have. Unfortunately you cannot purchase the lower control arm bush seperate; you can only buy the entire arm. I'd prefer keep all the bush the same for consistency sake. The link you also provided is for SW20, I have a AW11.
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Re: AW11 Rubber Bush options
2014/10/22 10:28:37
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Prothane bushes are the only option that I have found; I searched high and low for TRD and Cusco hyperball only to have everyone come back to say they are discontinued. Prothane are a lot more durable and measurably harder than stock rubber. TRD were a rubber bush as well but noticeably up-spec'd. Best place to buy Prothane bushes is Summit Racing: http://www.summitracing.c...rothane-motion-control If you look up some of the TRD part numbers, the bushes share a lot of common part numbers with SW20's as well. Obviously the control arms themselves were different but the diameter and width for the bushing was kept common on a few spots. You are correct also in that Toyota will not sell bushes separately.
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Re: AW11 Rubber Bush options
2014/10/22 10:44:51
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Yea this is what I've found too however my reason in going against poly bush is to keep the supple ride.
If poly bush are the only option can anyone else recommend the softest poly bushes on the market?
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Re: AW11 Rubber Bush options
2014/10/22 11:03:28
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The poly bushes don't change the suppleness of the ride (IMHO). Good quality bushes will improve the feel of the steering/cornering.
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Re: AW11 Rubber Bush options
2014/10/22 12:45:26
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Whoops my bad, I just copied and bookmarked it since I have SW20...at it was past 12am The TwoS R US bushes on the SW20 definately give it more positive feel but I do admit it stiffened things up a little bit, also commented by a passenger who had BC's on his TRD Altezza. When I got new OEM shocks/springs the ride became softer and smoother
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Re: AW11 Rubber Bush options
2014/10/23 10:04:36
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Personally I think comparing brand new Toyota bushes vs Prothane, you aren't going to feel much of a difference if at all. The biggest difference will be tired shagged Toyota bushes vs any new bushing. Also agreed a softer OEM style spring and shock is going to keep your ride more supple than softer bushings. Bushings are there to keep the suspension components in the position they are supposed to be in, not make your ride more comfortable.
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Re: AW11 Rubber Bush options
2014/10/23 19:39:55
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You do have a point considering i haven't experienced new oem bushings however I've had poly bushes in my in mx5 and i definitely noticed a lot more NVH and specifically harshness over the oem ones. It also had bilstein coilovers so i don't quite believe that comfort isn't going to be compromised. I think overall the bushing do contribute to comfort as they provide alittle give but as many of you have said the shocks do most of the work which i also agree with. If anyone is currently running poly bushes in their aw11 could i get some feedback on your thoughts and what brand of poly bushes your running? and would you do anything different if you had the chance?
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Re: AW11 Rubber Bush options
2014/10/24 10:15:05
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My AW11 has been running front Prothane bushes since I bought it, but rears were still factory rubber and well worn. I never had any noticeable NVH in the car, but all of the suspension was worn except for the ball joints, so I overlooked for the most part the way it handled. Since then all the rear bushes have been replaced and I will be putting in new Prothane bushes in the front to ensure all wear is even. But I haven't had a chance to drive the car properly so can't fully comment. I know quite a few AW11 owners and most of them have run Prothane bushes, the only comment I've ever heard is they can be squeaky but that may be due to lack of lubrication on the metal insert.
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Re: AW11 Rubber Bush options
2014/10/25 13:06:00
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I have replaced the tired, worn out OEM rubber bushes in "a couple" of MR2's in my time. It is, IMHO, the single most economical improvement that you can make to the ride and handling of your car. Most economic in that unless you are getting a very special discount the cost of the complete poly bush kit is less than you would pay for Toyota genuine rubber. And don't even think about non-genuine rubber, it's been my experience that you would be replacing it in a much shorter time frame anyway. As per my earlier comment, NVH from the Two'sRUs kit is not significantly different to new factory bushings. What usually complicates the harshness story is owners who combine a bush replacement with an aftermarket strut/damper replacement. Following on from Maj's post about squeaky, this usually comes from incorrect fitment. Lubrication is very important.
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Re: AW11 Rubber Bush options
2014/10/26 16:53:26
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I have an Aus delivered AW11 which I am endeavouring to keep in as original condition as possible. I have replaced all the bushings with urethane bushes from TwosRUs. The kit didn't include the rear sway bushes so I used SuperPro bushes there. At the same time, I replaced the shock absorbers with Koni yellow adjustables which were set to the OEM settings. I retained the OEM springs. I have not experienced any NVH and the ride, while firm, is much softer than the ride in my friends' vehicles which have been "upgraded". Fulcrum Suspensions in Capalaba Qld fitted it all for me (with the exception of the rear sway bar bushes) and did an excellent job repainting all the suspension parts for me while they were out of the car. I also replaced the ball joints, tie rods and the steering bushes at the same time. When I drove the car away after all the work, I thought the ride was better and more comfortable. This was possibly because the tired old suspension wasn't doing its job properly. I agree with DTM that lubrication is very important.
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Re: AW11 Rubber Bush options
2014/10/26 17:33:34
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Thanks for your feedback guys really appreciate it.  I've gone ahead and asked for a couple of quotes for Super Pro bushes so i'm just waiting for their responses. Doc, Its funny you say that because I'm actually planning to do the exact same thing expect i may add Eibach pro kit springs and i'll be doing all the work myself.
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Re: AW11 Rubber Bush options
2014/10/26 22:40:46
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I also have the Konis with standard springs and Prothane bushings. Definitely not harsh. I was actually hoping that the difference with the bushes would be more noticeable as my car is not a daily drivers and is going to be used for track days. The fitting is very straightforward but I also agree that the lubrication is critical. Peter
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Re: AW11 Rubber Bush options
2014/10/27 09:49:25
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FYI the urethane bushes from TwosRUs and Prothane bushes I linked from Summit Racing are the same kit. Pricing is similar but you will find postage from Summit is much better than TwosRUs's standard international shipping of $50USD or more.
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