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2014/04/07 09:53:23 (permalink)
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Tyre size help

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I am looking at buying some new rims and tyres package from someone but not sure if this would fit. The fronts are 17x 8 +35 with a 235/45 and the rears are 17x 9 +38 with a 255/40. My car is lowered using lowering springs sitting at 330mm all around.
Tyres are too big to fit, yeah?
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    Senor_2
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    Re: Tyre size help 2014/04/07 10:04:10 (permalink)
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    Rears should be ok, fronts will be too big; try a 215/40 instead

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    Re: Tyre size help 2014/04/07 10:22:16 (permalink)
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    Ah thanks. That's what I thought. The tyres/ rims were all part of a package that a guy was selling. Rear tyres might still be too big though, isn't it?
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    Re: Tyre size help 2014/04/07 11:04:25 (permalink)
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    They might be depending on your particular car setup, but there's a good chance they will be ok with the size/offset of the wheel. Quite a few SW20's around running that size on the rear, only way to be sure is to test fit them.

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    Re: Tyre size help 2014/04/07 11:09:13 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the help mate :)
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    Re: Tyre size help 2014/04/07 18:47:24 (permalink)
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    For reference I've run 215/40/17 up front and 255/40 on the rear with a 17" without problems.
     
    with the 265/35/18 i've got now, there will be the occasional scrub on heavy drops.
     
     

     
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    Re: Tyre size help 2014/04/09 11:05:37 (permalink)
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    Cheers, Dylan. What was your offset on the rear when you were running 255/40?
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    Re: Tyre size help 2014/04/11 00:46:51 (permalink)
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    My rears just scrub with 235/40/17 17 x 9 +35 on stock suspension, but only because I don't have my guards rolled. If you have your guards rolled then I imagine you should be fine. My fronts are 215/40/17 on 17 x 8 +35.
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    Re: Tyre size help 2014/04/11 10:26:06 (permalink)
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    Maybe a stupid question (first time buying new rims) but what are the things to check to make sure it will not scrub against the guards/ fender/ suspension?
    I did some googling but couldn't find any useful tips for beginners.
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    Re: Tyre size help 2014/04/11 10:41:45 (permalink)
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    Check out this calculator. http://91mr2.com/wheel-and-tire-calculator/
    It's the new version of Gordaen's wheel calc site.
    1. Enter your current(old) wheel values or select the standard OEM option (quick sets)
    2. Enter your proposed wheel & tyre values and it will tell you how far out/in they will sit and any changes to rolling diameter (speed KPH).
    There is still room for variations though due to ride height, bent suspension components, camber, coilovers etc etc. But its a good place to start :)
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    Re: Tyre size help 2014/04/11 10:53:54 (permalink)
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    That's the thing though, I used that, and according to it the front 17x8 235/45 +35 would be 0mm flush with the fender, so it sounds like it would work...(likewise for 17x9 255/40 +38 would have 3mm clearance with the fenders according to the calculator, but lumix just mentioned having troubles with 235/40/17 17 x 9 +35) yet, all the research I have done seems to indicate that anything bigger than 215/40/17 +35 (front) would most likely cause issues, which is probably why I am quite confused as to how to know for sure.
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    Re: Tyre size help 2014/04/11 11:12:24 (permalink)
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    I put your sizes in the calculator and the rolling diameter is much larger then standard. This is what causes the problems.
    215/40/17 at the front is the best option and have the best chance of fitting. Guards would prob need to be rolled if your lowered on a 17x8 +35
    and a 255/40/17 or 245/40/17 at the rear would work but you'd very likely need to roll the guards if your lowered on the 17x9 +38.
     
    In my opinion the wheel sizes are great. Front and rear flush. You just need to right tyres and possible pre-work (rolling)
     
    Spend a few hours reading through the wheel threads on MR2OC. Pretty much every combination you can think of has been tried.
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    Re: Tyre size help 2014/04/11 13:13:55 (permalink)
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    I agree with Mrskylighter, good advice. The rolling diameter is what is going to cause the problems at the front. 
     
    I'm running stock suspension and 215/40/17 (Front) is fine, keeps the rolling diameter close to factory. I should also mention I'm running Federal 595-SS tyres and I would say they are slightly wider due to the lip protection they have, compared to a tyre that doesn't. I have uploaded a couple of pictures to show what I mean about the lip protection and where it is scrubs on my rear with the 235/40/17 due to the guards not being rolled up.
     
    Front. Showing the 595-SS lip protection. It makes the side wall of the tyre stick out from the guard, there is also a lip on the inside of the tyre that makes it sit extremely close to my strut. So when looking for new tyres take into account the overall design. 

     
    Photo of the rear looking up. You can see the where the tyre 235/40/17 on 17 x 9 +35 just scrubs the guard. With 255/40/17 I would say you will need to roll up the lip to fit the wider tyre.

     
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    Re: Tyre size help 2014/04/11 13:42:11 (permalink)
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    Cheers, I think it makes more sense to me. I was only looking at the width to make sure it doesn't hit the suspension on the inside, and the fender on the outside, but the bigger rolling diameter means the tyres fill more of the wheel well (since they are taller) and increase the chances of the guard/ fender hitting the tyres when the suspension travels down, right?
    On mr2oc someone had 255/40/17 +38 on a 17x9 and he said he didn't had any problems (so did Dylan, but not sure what offset he had), but his suspension/ alignment may have been the reason for this, so it might not work for me.
    post edited by alexv - 2014/04/11 13:55:13
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    Re: Tyre size help 2014/04/11 13:52:47 (permalink)
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    dylmrt
    For reference I've run 215/40/17 up front and 255/40 on the rear with a 17" without problems.
     
    with the 265/35/18 i've got now, there will be the occasional scrub on heavy drops.
     
     




    Hi dylmrt
     
    I was just curious what rim size offsets you are running with your tires? as I would also like to fit a 265/35/18 on mine as well.

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