Buzza1995
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MR2 Spyder Ultimate Build
I'm in the process of designing and building my dream an "Ultimate Build" Mark III MR2 Spyder, Currently I have decided on a Supercharged 2GR-FE V6 with a modified E153 Mark II MR2 Transmission! Currently I have made multiple sketches of the car at different angles and I am making a 3D 1/15 Scale mold using a Styrofoam buck with professional molding clay over the top this will give me visual aids in producing a finished car. I am looking at the Porsche 918 Spyder as my main inspiration as well as Lotus Evora, Ferrari 360 Modena, Lamborghini Adventador and the Mclaren P1. I will post images of the sketches and mold soon. Currently i'm adding a new 1zz that i picked up for $1000 out of a low km wreck, Just so i have something for now while I save for the new running gear to drive on weekends. The current car is the 2004 AUTOSALON Magazine car, As far as I know Autosalon gave it away in a competition the winner sold the car to a guy in Queensland and then he sold it to a guy in NSW who bought it for his daughter unfortunate for me as when I got it I drove back to Victoria and the clutch was already shuddering guess she drove the smt like she was in a auto and rode the throttle at the lights. So since I bought it I have replaced 2 alternators, serviced it every 5 thousand with the best products, Nulon synthetic oil, NGK Iridium plugs, Hi Flow Air filters ect, and despite this i now have a blown set of piston rings at only 80,000kms. When the car was built:  Now:   Before I resprayed the engine bay:  After:  And the new engine ready to go in: 
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Re: MR2 Spyder Ultimate Build (WHAT ENGINE DO I PUT IN)
2014/03/10 23:59:29
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Re: MR2 Spyder Ultimate Build (WHAT ENGINE DO I PUT IN)
2014/03/11 04:14:25
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Buzza1995
What engine is the best most powerful that will fit in this engine bay with a front wheel drive layout?
I'm also looking at the possibility of hydrogen and electric as this is the way of the future.
Ooh, you want FWD and maybe hydrogen or electric? Maybe ask turbodosebro, he also has a high paying job and big plans.
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Re: MR2 Spyder Ultimate Build (WHAT ENGINE DO I PUT IN)
2014/03/11 08:21:57
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If you want electric you could speak to a place called Lubrication Management in Dandenong. I know they have converted a few cars
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Re: MR2 Spyder Ultimate Build (WHAT ENGINE DO I PUT IN)
2014/03/11 13:20:13
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
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Re: MR2 Spyder Ultimate Build (WHAT ENGINE DO I PUT IN)
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Re: MR2 Spyder Ultimate Build (WHAT ENGINE DO I PUT IN)
2014/03/11 13:42:47
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For something a little different perhaps an engine swap from a Toyota GTV. Then run it on some sort of biofuel. 
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Re: MR2 Spyder Ultimate Build (WHAT ENGINE DO I PUT IN)
2014/03/11 16:19:31
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EV conversion would be very cool, but who knows where to store the batteries in these things, as they have next to no storage!
Otherwise very well suited for the install considering the chassis bare weight etc. Maybe forgo the passenger seat?
If you keep for a conventional, non-unobtanium engine swap, as knightrous said you cannot go past the 2GR for the maximum punch. Considering they usually swap these into Lotus Elises etc. then they should be good enough for you ;)
Abflug make a Porsche 918 style kit for the MR-S, so you might find some inspiration there.
No idea why you car show guys love cream interiors so much, they make me want to throw up. Why not some Alcantara matched to the body colour along with black leather or black Alcantara? Make it look like a Maclaren MP4-12C or something.
Competition sound meh they just weigh the car down and make them handle crappier. My mate has an 2012 STi and spent 5k on audio on it but tried to keep it looking kinda factory (eg. raised boot floor but matching factory style carpet). All up with the reinforcing and sound deadening, added a good 100kg to the car.
His 1500kg car was now 1600kg sans driver, even with 222kW at the wheels, he wasn't really pulling away from my 1400kg sans driver 155kW soobie.
If you could do sound on the minimum weight to keep the car at it's original kerb weight along with a new body and not make it look ugly, then I'll truly be impressed.
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Re: MR2 Spyder Ultimate Build (WHAT ENGINE DO I PUT IN)
2014/03/12 07:13:41
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Most excellent!
Post up some current pics!
Maybe you should give Terry at Road and Track a call - rumour has it that he has/had his hands on a s/c 2gr.
Not really sure why you want a car that you won't legally be able to drive until you have your open licence though.
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Re: MR2 Spyder Ultimate Build (WHAT ENGINE DO I PUT IN)
2014/03/12 07:45:38
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FWD ...... Riiiiiiiiiiiiight!
Very keen on the 918 kit myself.
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Re: MR2 Spyder Ultimate Build (WHAT ENGINE DO I PUT IN)
2014/03/12 10:06:02
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☄ Helpfulby Buzza1995 2014/03/16 02:09:59
Supercharge the 2GR, it's all bolt on. Alcantara is a synthetic suede, but it's much higher quality, google it. It's what Ferrari and Lamborghini use along with the new Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ, I'm sure you'll find it's not much more expensive than leather at all, and probably cheaper than premium Italian leather. You really need to do your research man, Hydrogen is neither easy nor cheap to produce. It is in high abundance but no one has discovered an easy way to harvest pure hydrogen for use as a fuel source. Current methods are complicated but indeed it would be the way of the future if you can overcome the issues mentioned above. I do not know of a single hydrogen petrol station in Australia. E85 however is easy to produce, as the name suggests its a Biofuel with approximately 85% blended ethanol from plant byproduct. E85 is readily available at a lot of petrol stations and is relatively easy to convert your engine to run it, basically all you need are bigger injectors, fuel lines, higher flowing fuel pump and a flex sensor if you want to run regular fuel when E85 is not available, then a tune to make the most of it. The power gains on E85 are significant due to the anti-knock properties (premature detonation) it has. It's the next best thing to full blown race car fuel. This is what the Abflug 918 kit looks like, will cost you about 20k for everything including the lights: 
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Re: MR2 Spyder Ultimate Build (WHAT ENGINE DO I PUT IN)
2014/03/12 11:38:49
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Hmm interesting thread with interesting answers! Sometime down the track I also want a daily electric car since I do well under 100km per day of driving. Just plug it in at night and watch the savings and know that you are doing everyone a favour of reducing suburban/urban emissions. This seems like a good benchmark: http://www.evalbum.com/4003 Cold nuclear fusion would be a scientist's wet dream, I have not looked too much too it as it seems too much of a hassle for private transport (we need a proper working reactor first and foremost commercially). Again not having expert opinion on this, I think LPG is better in the short term (~50 years) than biofuels simply because we have the infrastructure already in Australia. Basically I want to drive interstate (and on trackdays!) without fear of running empty if my car runs only on E85. That is currently not possible between Melb and Sydney when I checked United fuel stations about a week ago. However there are flexfuel kits for conventional petrol cars so they can run on both and ethanol conversions and are much cheaper/easier compared to proper liquid injection LPG conv. However being a treehugger myself (yes I hug myself lol) I also want to reduce our foreign oil dependancy which I think is better for the country anyways. Hydrogen cars are false economy, it takes more energy to produce it than to use it, kinda like the idea of bottled water... If you allow me to be selfish... For my ULTIMATE MR-S build personally I would do a 2ZZ-GE, stroke it to 2.0L and turbocharge it running on E85 with lots of boost. I would strip it out and enter World Time Attack Clubsprint class and create a little history for myself and my fiesty little MR2 lol. As much as I love the 2GR it requires a lot of work and I would have to enter open class in which the competition's pockets are too far deep for me to delve into... This is an interesting article for those inclined to a greener future http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_110155/article.html
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Re: MR2 Spyder Ultimate Build (WHAT ENGINE DO I PUT IN)
2014/03/12 12:58:33
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That's a cool sounding EV MR-S, A chap over on Toymods has a really well done EV Sera and his build thread is amazing to read, in fact all his cars are. Only thing is EV isn't cheap so realistically you aren't being much more sustainable by doing it, not unless you charge it via your own personal wind farm and run it for over 50 years, then the cost and emissions for production finally become neutral.
E85 when not being used as a racecar-like fuel does reduce emissions compared to regular fuel, but still not as much as LPG, I believe production of biofuel is a much more innovative field than LPG mining though.
Flex kits are definitely a good stopgap solution until E85 is much more widespread. Hell even in rural areas it's hard enough finding 98RON petrol, which is a pain when your car is 98-only.
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Re: MR2 Spyder Ultimate Build (WHAT ENGINE DO I PUT IN)
2014/03/13 00:40:41
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Interesting I will have to read up on thay EV Sera guy's thread sometime. Yes I almost forgot the car can't be completely zero emissions if the electricity didn't come from renewable; currently solar and wind being easiest to obtain domestically but most of the driving is done during the day...
I have read that ethanol produces a different type of emission but that can be filtered. I guess I can understand the need for 98 may not be as in demand in those regional areas but I would have thought most modern ICE cars have a knock sensor to retard the timing?
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Re: MR2 Spyder Ultimate Build (WHAT ENGINE DO I PUT IN)
2014/03/13 08:19:01
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Something to keep in mind is even if you spend $40k modifying this car you will probably struggle to get anywhere close to half that when it comes time to sell if you plan on ever selling it. If it was me personally I'd spend 60k on a Lotus exige instead like this: http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Lotus-Exige-2007/AGC-AD-15257112/?Cr=5&sdmvc=1Has the Alcantara Trim your after, is light weight does 0-100 in 4.3, is street legal, rear engined etc.....I believe its a much better car for probably close to the same amount you want to spend.
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