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Oil cooler fittings
Hey guys just putting together an oil cooler
Earls, PWR, Mocal, Serck, Enzed thermo sandwich plate/fittings, what's my best/cheapest/quickest to my door options here?
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Re: Oil cooler fittings
2013/11/29 17:12:42
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Re: Oil cooler fittings
2013/11/29 17:13:10
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http://www.mrpltd.co.nz/browse/30_253/oil-cooler-thermostat.html
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Re: Oil cooler fittings
2013/11/29 17:30:47
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Tri, "best/cheapest/quickest to my door options"Cooler: Serk - good reputation for quality that I can verify. Check out CAPA http://www.capa.com.au/prices_serck.htm I suppose you already know a full flow system would need AN 10 fittings. Be aware some thermos are designed for track and may keep the oil too cool for DD. FYI, I use a 16 row, 124 X 235 matrix width Serk, mounted under the car in the airflow, but of course as you know, my cooler setup is a bit different.
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Re: Oil cooler fittings
2013/11/29 21:28:32
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Ah Tri i just sold my earls cooler, few thermostats, fans ect, missed out!
+1 for Earls ect AN Plumbing (USA) altho last few orders there was some delay.
I ahve bought some stuff from Earls Aust (syd) if needed in hurry you will have ti the next day, but the price diff on big coolers ect is massive compared to USA
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Re: Oil cooler fittings
2013/11/30 02:25:25
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Many thanks for the replies folks, quality questions = quality members = quality answers I suppose  F**k me that MRP thermo plate, sexy as hell but I ain't payin that much lol. I do like the wet start up, is that for all oil thermo plates or just the MRT? Anplumbing.com def looks good to save a few $, how long does delivery usually take? The Capa stuff is very well priced as well for local, was gonna go (flamesuit) eBay core 13 row but only another $20 for a Serck. Your setup is pro finish as always Ian, but I think I'm gonna mount it on the RHS vent near the fan. Not sure which way is better yours or RHS but 2 track goers I spoke to seem happy with RHS. Def going 10AN as I would welcome more oil even just a bit... AHh can't believe I missed it Brendan, I was still saving up for these, just got my first paycheck last Thursday and blew it all on koni yellows today (finally haha) bank balance back to zero lol Okay so a full kit would comprise of: One 10AN cooler core, 2 quality 10AN hoses of suitable length, a thermostatic 10AN sandwich plate and 4 quality 10AN adapters for the cooler and plate? What temperature would be suitable for the oil thermo plate? I suppose a fully warmed car would be about 100C for the oil? Water thermo opens at 82C, not sure if there is supposed to be a discrepancy between them... Also is there a major difference in performance between narrow and wide coolers? Sorry for mass Qs, love you guys :') drinks on me next cruise This should be stickied for the good links, here's another one from track star Iain: http://www.thinkauto.com/
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Re: Oil cooler fittings
2013/11/30 09:53:34
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The cooler I have under the car is long and narrow, but you would need a shorter, deeper one for the side vent. Maybe get the biggest one you can fit in there, but think carefully about how you will the route the hoses (shorter is better), and the type of elbows/ fittings you will need. AN 10 fittings cost more and the hoses are harder to bend than AN 8, but worth it for the extra flow. +1 for genuine 'Earl $' fittings, I feel they are worth the extra money. In the past I have had good service and prices from Summit Racing, for Hoses and fittings. http://www.summitracing.com/int/search/department/fittings-hoses?SortBy=Default&SortOrder=Ascending
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Re: Oil cooler fittings
2013/11/30 18:20:50
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The Earls thermostat '501ERL' starts to open at 70 deg.C and fully open at 80.
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Re: Oil cooler fittings
2013/11/30 22:21:40
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I would recommend using ORB hose ends (something like an Earls 844510) to the thermostat. This will eliminate an adapter and also greatly reduce the risk of leaks from the oil filter area. I had a hard time properly aligning a hose end and getting a good seal due to the lack of room to swing a AN spanner in that area. As soon as you put any pressure on the spanner it would slightly cock the fitting. Me and Toten spent ages trying to get this to seal properly so I changed to ORB hose ends and I like them that much that I think I'll use them throughout most of the system next time I'm making hose. I've got an Earls 23410 core in the RHS which is about the largest you could fit. I have used an intercooler block off shroud cut to fit the oil cooler core, which is very sexy I might add. Tied in with the 501ERL and temps are good. It'll sit ~90-92 at 100km cruise. The max temp I saw while on the dyno over 3.5 hrs was 110degrees. I remember after that tune on the way home I was stuck in stop start traffic for like an hour. At one point I was stuck on top of a bridge just idling with a nice breeze coming from the drivers side and my oil temp dropped to about 85 very quickly so the core is very efficient.
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Re: Oil cooler fittings
2013/11/30 22:58:00
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Re: Oil cooler fittings
2013/12/01 08:54:45
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If you are very lucky I might still have the CAD drawing for the shroud on one of my computers somewhere.
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Re: Oil cooler fittings
2013/12/01 15:55:41
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Shweet thanks for the pics. That is a massive core! These ORB hose ends sound good, less pieces = less points of failure. I'd like to run the cooler with opening/hoses pointed towards the ground to reduce length but I can imagine how hard it would be to tighten the fittings especially since I have my alternator in the FWD position! Maybe a knuckle-type spanner would help reach in those tight areas
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Re: Oil cooler fittings
2013/12/01 16:13:02
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You wouldn't want to put the fittings on the bottom Tree as the oil will drain out when the engine is off.
Also means when you start the engine the cooler will need to be filled so will stuff around with your oil levels,
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Re: Oil cooler fittings
2013/12/01 18:05:35
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+1
For mounting the cooler fittings on top.
And yes, short handle spanners make it much easier to tighten the fittings.
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Re: Oil cooler fittings
2013/12/01 21:50:37
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You could also use 'crows feet' to tighten them. Unfortunately the is no room for any of this with my setup and I think the ORB fittings are a great all round solution, I do however suggest you get some replacement seals to have onhand.
I have an Earls catalogue I downloaded which actually has recommended torque specs for the different size fittings and crows feet are the only way I could think of to torque fittings...
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