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Bleeding SW20 Brakes?

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2013/11/15 22:39:37 (permalink)
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Bleeding SW20 Brakes?

Frustrating Day. Have fitted Lexus/rebuilt 300ZXTT caliper front conversion and RX8 Sport on rear with late MR2 calipers. 1" Landcruiser Master cylinder. Master cylinder properly bench bled, brakes beld both with and without motor running. Gives a good hard pedal with acceptable travel when stationary both with motor off and motor running. Driving, first application of brakes is not bad and then the pedal becomes spongy and long unacceptable travel. Car has early ABS which does not operate - probably not wired to work. Fuse is OK. Rear brakes appear to be working well but very little front brake. Was locking rears. Suspect was air in front ABS lines. Bleeding thr proportioning valve and bleeding the ABS made no difference.
 
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    5SGTE
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    Re: Bleeding SW20 Brakes? 2013/11/16 00:14:23 (permalink)
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    What technique are you using?  Traditional or Vac?  I've had great success with 'vaccing' the notoriously hard to bleed clutch and intended to do the same when I do a similar thing to you with the brakes.
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    Highlander
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    Re: Bleeding SW20 Brakes? 2013/11/16 08:14:57 (permalink)
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    Traditional. Next step in the process is vacuum bleeding. If that doesn't work then maybe reverse bleeding. Heard of a case yesterday where brakes from another car were connected to the problem vehicle and "tandem" bled from that car when everything else had failed.
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    Re: Bleeding SW20 Brakes? 2013/11/16 09:30:35 (permalink)
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    Remove the ABS then have a few new lines fitted then bleed the system. I think the ABS is contaminated from the mixing in fluids in a previous life. You don't need the ABS and its a weight saving.
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    Re: Bleeding SW20 Brakes? 2013/11/18 09:38:50 (permalink)
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    5SGTE
    What technique are you using?  Traditional or Vac?  I've had great success with 'vaccing' the notoriously hard to bleed clutch and intended to do the same when I do a similar thing to you with the brakes.


    +1 for vacuum bleeding.
     
    I also have the early ABS and after swapping M/C's several times have had no probs getting all the air out of the system with the vac bleeder.
     
     
     
     

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    Re: Bleeding SW20 Brakes? 2013/11/18 12:03:29 (permalink)
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    I had to bleed my brakes 3 times to get rid of all the air.
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    Re: Bleeding SW20 Brakes? 2013/11/18 12:39:27 (permalink)
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    I agree with B24 about removing the ABS entirely. I did this a while back and the brakes perform great, the stock brakes are really good when ABS is not interfering.
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    Re: Bleeding SW20 Brakes? 2013/11/18 13:50:13 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the replies. ABS heading for the parts bin on Wednesday and new lines being made up to suit.
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    Re: Bleeding SW20 Brakes? 2013/11/18 21:51:57 (permalink)
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    Stuka - what exactly did you remove?

    I'm looking at ditching the ABS entirely as the rear are not hooked up (gen 3 calipers) and now in the process of changing the whole braking system to gen 3 turbo system. Did you remove the ABS ecu?

    1990 SW20 MR2 N/A with 1994 Gen 3 GTS 3S-GTE swap.

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