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2013/10/30 13:33:57 (permalink)
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Timing Belt & Water Pump

Just had a quote from my local Toyota dealer for Timing belt (with tensioner) & water pump, for 92 3S-GE. With gaskets will be a bit over $550. Wondering if anyone has bought these items from the UK? The Dayco belts are OEM parts, so should be as good as genuine, Asian Water Pumps are also OEM & look to be identical to genuine. At todays Exchange rate of 1.6945 the lot would cost $153.70 including International Tracked Postage!
There are also others on ebay from Gates & Bosch, has anyone purchased any of these parts?
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    just_ace
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    Re: Timing Belt & Water Pump 2013/10/30 13:41:22 (permalink)
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    Sq engineering, road and track or gorilla inds can also supply these bits for cheaper than dealer.

    I prefer to replace the water pump complete with the housing.
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    Re: Timing Belt & Water Pump 2013/10/30 18:55:17 (permalink)
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    Ray, I got my timing belt replacement stuff from Road and Track at much better prices than my Toyota dealer.
     
    Also, is your car ADM or JDM?
    I believe some early ADM 3SGE's (including the one in my car), and all JDM 3SGE's up to 'late '93 have a spring type tensioner. However I think ADM motors after late '90 have a hydraulic tensioner as well as the later JDM ones.
    So a good idea to check what you have before ordering.
    Also I would recommend you go for a genuine Toyota full water pump.
     
     

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    Re: Timing Belt & Water Pump 2013/10/31 17:21:19 (permalink)
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    Thanks Ian, My 3S-GE is an ADM so I'll check to see what type of tensioner it has. Are the Belts, tensioners & water pumps from Road & Track genuine Toyota parts? Also I note that mine has a 178 tooth belt later ones have one tooth difference.
    Haven't got the harmonic balancer off yet, I have to borrow & breaker bar from a friend; when I clicked the starter motor to break the thread seal my little Sidchrome bar bent 45 degrees. I had already tried my rattle gun but as the crank shaft is not locked it just absorbed the impacts. I am also going to do the cam shaft gaskets while I have it all stripped down, as well.
    This job has to fit in with my regular work so I may be a while before it's back on the road again. I will keep you informed as to my progress.
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    Re: Timing Belt & Water Pump 2013/10/31 17:52:28 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Ray-MR2 2013/11/05 23:32:15
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    Ray, there's a little inspection port on the bell housing, on the ring-gear line (if you can understand that description)  Find a suitable beefy flat screwdriver or short lever, or some such device, and use this to lock the ring gear.  Then find a STRONG breaker bar and a corresponding length of steam pipe to slip over the breaker bar.
     
    Somewhere in the dim dark ages I had a thread about this particular bolt - worked on an SW where both of my rattle guns, and Craigs super-dooper overclocked godzilla gun wouldn't shift.  Ended up having a 2 metre bar.  The bolt saw sense, and let go with a hell of a bang!  Turn out that a previous "technician" had found the need to use what looked like Honda thread locking compound on the thread AND the mating face of the bolt.
     
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    Re: Timing Belt & Water Pump 2013/10/31 18:05:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Ray-MR2 2013/11/05 23:32:01
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    A '92 ADM 3sge should have a hydraulic tensioner.
    (BTW, if you ever have to compress them to re-fit the pin, you can do it in a vice, but only tighten VERY slowly so as not to damage them).
     
    I got a genuine Toyota water pump, and tensioner, along with a Gates timing belt from R and T, but you would have to ring them to find what they would sell you. BTW, better to phone them rather than to email.
     
    Also maybe a good idea to check your belt rollers too.
     
    AS Dennis says you may need to chock the ring gear so you can use a breaker bar to remove the pulley nut.
    I suppose you would know to only use a 6 sided well fitting impact type socket.
    Good luck with that 'cos they sometimes can be VERY tight even without threadlocker.
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    Re: Timing Belt & Water Pump 2013/11/05 18:38:44 (permalink)
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    Thanks Dennis & Ian, the good news is I was able to get the bolt on the crankshaft to undo, it had a fair bit of thread sealer as it took a one metre long breaker bar to shift it. Then when I went to pull off the harmonic balancer I found the threads on my puller bolts were not metric. I picked up a couple of metric ones from Bunnings yesterday & they have done the job.
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    Re: Timing Belt & Water Pump 2013/11/06 10:04:38 (permalink)
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    Wow!!  Congratulations on getting it off.
    Now the rest should be easy, lol.
     
    Why do "technicians" feel the need put thread locker on that bolt?
    The service manual quotes 80 ft/lbs of torque needed with no mention of using thread locker.

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