Cayn V6SW20
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Adaptability of E153 gearbox's
Hey guys,
As some of you know I've been hunting for a gearbox for my mr2 for months and for reasons haven't been able to purchase one yet. I've recently found a gearbox that might fit my requirements. My only worry is that the gearbox has come out of a Toyota 184 celica that was converted to a 3sgte and had mr2 shafts. Would I have any issues getting this to work in an mr2? Like with the gear linkages going in the opposite direction will there be any issues or are mounting points different? Is there any reason that this gearbox might not fit my car?
Look forward to hearing any advice you guys may have. So thanks in advance
Cayn.
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Re: Adaptability of E153 gearbox's
2013/10/26 12:47:48
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Off the top of my head yes, you will need to modify the housing to get the shift pointing in the right direction. It's not a super difficult job, and can be done (carefully) without having to dismantle the box. Not sure about mounting points - Toyota have a good reputation for components being fairly easy to swap between models.
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Re: Adaptability of E153 gearbox's
2013/10/26 13:27:46
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Otherwise, like other people who have done the V6 conversion, they have had custom shifter cables made up that reach to the other side of the gearbox.
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Re: Adaptability of E153 gearbox's
2013/10/26 14:23:25
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If your lucky it may have originally been an sw20 and the box was conv to fwd. Then itd be an easy revert
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Cayn V6SW20
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Re: Adaptability of E153 gearbox's
2013/10/26 16:20:58
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So it is doable to convert. When you say modify the bell housing do you mean just basic machining, or is it a fairly complex modification? I'm sure I could find away to make the shifter work. In the publics opinion should I go ahead and buy it? I don't have a lot of experience, so I don't want to go beyond my depth.
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Re: Adaptability of E153 gearbox's
2013/10/26 18:48:27
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It's not actually the bellhousing, it's the case of the gearbox. Where the selector rod enters the housing you basically are drilling through the end of the shaft boss, remove the shaft, fit a seal to the original hole and fit the shaft to the new hole. As commented above, take a look and see if there is a seal mounted along the line of the shaft - if so, it's an MR2 box converted to FWD duties. You Are A Winner! All you need to do is (carefully) ease the seal out, restore the selector shaft to its original and proper location, and fit the seal to the hole.
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Re: Adaptability of E153 gearbox's
2013/10/27 19:26:52
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Thanks guys, I'm sure that's not to difficult a thing for most of you, but I think it's beyond my capabilities. I'm still new to these cars so swapping the gearbox will be a big enough challange in itself. Thanks for the info, saved me from a lot of potential headache. I'm just going to hold out for one that's already set up for a mr2. If anyone knows one for sale around the gold coast Brisbane area for a reasonable price, please let me know. I just want an e153, I'm willing to pay extra for a LSD but not limited to. Thanks again. Cayn.
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Re: Adaptability of E153 gearbox's
2013/10/27 20:31:58
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Have you seen the gen 3 engine and box package on gumtree someone here posted the other day. It's a bargain, $700. Pretty sure it was QLD.
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Re: Adaptability of E153 gearbox's
2013/10/27 20:31:58
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Have you seen the gen 3 engine and box package on gumtree someone here posted the other day. It's a bargain, $700. Pretty sure it was QLD.
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Re: Adaptability of E153 gearbox's
2013/10/27 21:57:23
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Arty' - the problem with that one is it's a Celica box. It's going to need the conversion job . . . Having said that, Cayn' - perhaps you could consider it? The conversion job isn't that expensive to have done, and there's plenty of us Qlders here who could do it for you.
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Re: Adaptability of E153 gearbox's
2013/10/27 23:25:14
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Derrr, sorry my bad. Looked at the mr2 configuration of the IC pipes in the pic and didn't read the text!
As it sounds like you are weary of doing the shifter mod yourself, why not call road and track (or other suitable place ) and get a quote to get it done, you will then know where you stand.
That package is still a great buy, even for motor alone.
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Re: Adaptability of E153 gearbox's
2013/10/29 22:32:19
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why dont you just fix the MR2 box you have?? we have done heaps of them if you want to buy another box, be aware the camry V6 ones have some different ratios. running longer cables rather than modifying the camry selectors, is a dumb idea it is very hard to buy a genuine good condition MR2 turbo box. unless you can test drive it before it comes out, assume any pre 94 box will crunch going into second. the later boxes are a bit better, but cost a lot more to repair if they happen to have poor syncros we have done the camry to MR2 shifter conversion. call me if interested
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Re: Adaptability of E153 gearbox's
2013/11/01 12:54:02
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Hey Guys, Sorry I haven't replied. normally I get an email notification when this gets action. I am still considering getting the Celica box. I was going to call around a few local gearbox specialists today to see if I could get a quote on the job before I go and purchase one. I'm told it's not an expensive thing to do so it could be a possibility. My gearbox is beyond repair. it's a standard 1990 NA mr2 box that's blown to pieces and sounds like a bag of marbles if you can manage to get the car to move slightly. I want the reliability of a turbo box. My dream situation would be to find someone selling a complete set of parts required to convert it from the NA box to a Turbo box, but have had no luck finding such a thing, or to be able to afford one. I am currently looking at two gearboxes. one is a LSD box that was from an mr2 but was converted for a celica in Sydney which after freight will cost me $700. the other is a celica box that comes with mr2 drive shafts and cross member in Brisbane which I can pick up for $500. Either way both will need some modification to fit my car, and I was told by the fellow in Sydney it only cost him $30 to convert the mr2 box to a celica, so I'm wondering if that's all it should cost to convert a celica box for a mr2. Again, any advice any of you may have or opinions on which path to take would be appreciated. Thanks. Cayn.
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Re: Adaptability of E153 gearbox's
2013/11/01 13:12:32
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Re: Adaptability of E153 gearbox's
2013/11/01 13:22:46
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That's the exact one I'm looking at. I think I'm just going to go through with it and purchase it. seems like my best option so far.
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