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2012/12/21 11:37:01 (permalink)

Runner Up Best Car in Show Al Palmers March 2011"
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    robk
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    Re:Finally.... some sense!!! 2012/12/21 12:06:30 (permalink)
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    Like!!
    Not that it changes anything, it's just good to see people publicly "telling it how it is".

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    Dudeman
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    Re:Finally.... some sense!!! 2012/12/21 16:09:15 (permalink)
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    I think they should raise the speed limit on suitable motorways to 130 or 140.
     
    Modern cars can drive that speed without effort, if theres three or four lanes, 'fast' lane is for over 120kph only.
     
    Local streets on the other hand, 50kph is fine. Lack of attention and/or impatience is the killer there.
    More fatal accidents in lower speed zones, kids on bikes and skateboards going out in front of cars.
     
    The higher speed accidents get the headlines as they tend to be more spectacular and devastating.

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    dylmrt
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    Re:Finally.... some sense!!! 2012/12/22 12:57:48 (permalink)
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    Speeding on highways long straight highways isn't generally the cause. Its speeding on suburban streets or tight windy roads. 
     
    If anything going faster on the long straight highways might improve road safety as it'll take less time to get places and hence lower the fatigue involved.

     
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    Re:Finally.... some sense!!! 2012/12/22 14:47:48 (permalink)
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    Dudeman
    The higher speed accidents get the headlines as they tend to be more spectacular and devastating. 

    Yes indeed.  Check out this test crash at 193kph - a speed just about every modern car can hit without much difficulty.
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dI5ewOmHPQ
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    Re:Finally.... some sense!!! 2013/06/13 02:42:06 (permalink)
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    ^^ Thats some pretty hideous footage.

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    dennis the menace
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    Re:Finally.... some sense!!! 2013/06/13 08:22:09 (permalink)
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    Started writing a comment, then realised the video said it all.
     
    PROPER driver training is a better investment than spending more and more money on "safer" roads . . .

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    Re:Finally.... some sense!!! 2013/06/13 11:46:51 (permalink)
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    Interesting that the Newman LNP Government in Queensland is currently undertaking a review of all speed limits and has called for public submissions, although from what the press has been saying the outcomes of the review are probably largely already agreed to.
    What is being speculated about is the more than likely increase in speed limits on roads that can take it from 110kph to 120kph (the M1 to the Gold Coast. dual carriageway parts of the Bruce Highway going north, etc.), plus some roads with 100kph limits going to 110kph.
    Other roads in urban areas that should be classified for local traffic may be reduced from 60kph to 50kph, but the big plus is that in this process the government is finally conducting proper risk assessments and not just listening to all the doomsayers who want us effectively to go back to the old horse and buggy days.
     

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    Re:Finally.... some sense!!! 2013/06/13 11:50:43 (permalink)
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    tralfaz
    What is being speculated about is the more than likely increase in speed limits on roads that can take it from 110kph to 120kph ...



    So 130kph will become the norm as people tend to assume that doing 10kph over the limit 'isn't an offence'

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    Re:Finally.... some sense!!! 2013/06/13 13:09:22 (permalink)
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    I want to be able to cruise at 140kph to Winton but I'll need that 6th gear!
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    Re:Finally.... some sense!!! 2013/06/13 13:33:37 (permalink)
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    I'm a born and bred Northern Territorian, and up here we've gone through some changes to speed limits. 
     
    Until about beginning of 2007, we had open speed limits (yes, go as fast as your vehicle could safely go!) and on all the times doing trips out side of Darwin, there were some people who would do the odd 160 - 180kph in some of the faster cars, but people mainly stayed around 110 - 120kph.
     
    Of course there were the clowns out there who did testing and raced quite fast, I've seen Lambos, Ferraris, Porsche all going quite fast: (guilty, I took out my dad's cbr1000 and raced a mate on his bike past the Boys in Blue at about 200kph and they just looked on as we were not speeding - open speed limit.)
     
    However, after 2007 the government brought in 130 as the speed limit and now EVERYONE tries to do that in all types of cars, which is NOT safe...4WDs, trucks, sh!tbombs, caravans.  My family owns a property about 120kms outside of Darwin which I visit a fair amount and every weekend its the same story - everyone trying to do 130, no matter what vehicle they are in.
     
    Interestingly enough, due to the increased (yep increased) fatalities after speed limits were brought back in, the current government is looking to bring back open speed limits to some parts of the highway.  http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-news/open-speed-limits-for-territory-20130508-2j6zy.html
     
    I wouldn't mind - get to test out my toys legally and safely, key word being safe. 
    At the end of the day, everyone needs to be in a safe environment and not put others at risk.
     
    An old Nissan Patrol with flogged out sussy, steering and brake components doing 130kph is a lot more dangerous than a 2012 911 Porsche doing 180kph.

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    Re:Finally.... some sense!!! 2013/06/13 14:35:43 (permalink)
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    I don't know about everyone but if i'm going 110 in a 110 zone out in the country I feel i'm concentrating on the road than I would be doing 100. Even though you have less time to react, you can just leave a bigger gap.
     
    Its interesting that more mandatory tests aren't done to check for drivers ability by relicensing. I know its not a popular option but it would be a great way to ensure that drivers have all the confidence and skills required to be driving on the road. 
     
    The TAC ads used to shock me now, but with the word of Youtube and the internet we've likely seen a lot worse in a crash video. It seems like the ads have as much impact.
     
    I always find reasoning the best cause of action, why do people loose concentration when driving, because they are stressed, tired, exhausted, frustrated etc.  I'd say a lot more accidents happen during peak hour where there are physically more cars on the road. Its also a time where people are more likely to be stressed etc or tired coming from home.
     
    I choose a different way to work now, although its longer and at a lower speed I don't have to stop and start all the time. I am not as stressed anymore and I seem to concentrate a lot better.
     
    People will always loose concentration at one stage or another, we are human after all and it is in our nature.
     

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    darius
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    Re:Finally.... some sense!!! 2013/06/20 15:51:23 (permalink)
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    Runner Up Best Car in Show Al Palmers March 2011"
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