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2012/05/05 19:01:43 (permalink)
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1998 Beams Motors

Hi all, been a while since l visited the forum.  Decided to upgrade the motor in my 1993 MR2, looking at a beams from US, any thoughts of what the best option would be at this stage.  Don't have a tone of money to spend
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    just_ace
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    Re:1998 Beams Motors 2012/05/05 19:07:04 (permalink)
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    buy the motor from a local importers. save you alot on shipping and if there are any hassles with wrong parts supplied etc. follow TREE, he's doing the swap at the moment using the greytop beams.
     
    very hard to find a redtop from an mr2, so inevitably you'll need to fit ether one from a celica or rav4/caldina.
     
    how much do you have to allow for this swap?
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    Re:1998 Beams Motors 2012/05/05 19:11:30 (permalink)
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    I know where l can two half cuts but they are out of the country.  Who should l contact in Australia regarding upgrading my engine etc.
     
    Any help would be great
    thanks
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    Re:1998 Beams Motors 2012/05/05 19:53:47 (permalink)
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    Finding a BEAMS half cut isn't an issue. It's finding all the little bits to make it work properly in your SW20 that all add up. 
    What sort of budget are you thinking you can spend? If you can afford to bring in an original SW20 Beams half cut, you'll save yourself a lot of pfaffing around.  
    This is the advice I gave Tree a couple of weeks ago. He didn't use it, but maybe you might:
     
    The cheapest "minimum-hassle" solution you could find by far is to buy this MR2 BEAMS clip from RPM Garage: www.rpmgarage.com/new/detail/?tid=20151

    A few weeks back, I saw that the price of this clip was temporarily dropped to $2499, so you'd get it for that... and it would have every single part you require.

    It will cost you $850 for shipping to Australia, then on top of that you'll have to pay customs clearance costs (which you'll need to do through a broker) and transportation to your mechanic... then whatever the mechanic charges to put it all in.

    You'd also need to make sure its shipped on a plastic pallet otherwise you'll definitely incur a quarantine steam cleaning fee... which you might get anyway if customs are feeling narky and having a bad day when it arrives.

    You may still need the help of an auto electrician for the wiring even if you have the proper MR2 beams engine loom. I did.
     
    post edited by mister2 - 2012/05/06 16:37:01
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    Re:1998 Beams Motors 2012/05/06 02:20:19 (permalink)
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    Hey mate I'm currently doing a Beams swap right now. Haven't had the time to update my showroom yet but I'll do it all in one shot when I have time or when the project is finished.
    Personally I would go local like what just_ace said, it's just less of a risk/headache in my opinion. Not discrediting your advice Bolly, I very much appreciate your advice and anyone's advice :)
    As a university student and part-time worker, I'm also trying to keep costs down and I think my method is the cheapest route for me.
    This is Bolly's route if you choose to follow him:
    http://www.mr2.com/forums...mr2-swap-question.html
    This is my route:
    http://www.mr2.com/forums...han-manual-engine.html
    Have a read of both if you are serious about this swap, you can def know more about how the swap goes, what you have to do etc
    Each path has it's pros and cons so it's up to you which ever way suits you most.
    Good luck and let us know how it goes :)
     
     
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    Re:1998 Beams Motors 2012/05/06 09:09:38 (permalink)
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    I'm not suggesting that buying the MR2 BEAMS half-cut is the cheapest solution, but I am suggesting it's the most effective solution if you want the best result for the minimum hassle.
     
    Also, in the long run, it does actually give you the best bang for your buck – because you also get the correct airbox set-up, which IS important for best BEAMS performance, plus you get a new gearbox and every other part you'll need, plus a BEAMS gauge cluster – which eliminates the need for a tacho adapter, newer & stiffer engine mounts, all the correct looms and pipes, etc, etc ... and a whole pile of other spares.
     
    For me, keeping my car tidy and not  hacked together was worth paying a bit more for.
     

     
     So Spudman, what you probably need to work out up front is whether you need to do your conversion for the cheapest price, or want the cleanest result. I wanted my car to be fully legal and as close to a genune OEM BEAMS as I could afford. 
     
     
     
    post edited by mister2 - 2012/05/06 09:35:44
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    Re:1998 Beams Motors 2012/05/06 21:08:44 (permalink)
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    OMG Bolly you used the OEM  word :)
     
    Definitely cheaper in the long run.
    When you add up all the missing pieces you will be surprised how much it all can cost.
    Finding the necessary parts will be hard and the new parts will cost a pretty penny.
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    Re:1998 Beams Motors 2012/07/12 20:42:11 (permalink)
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    i've just completed a grey top conversion out of a caldina into a SW20. no real hassles for us once we sorted out the electrical info. a lot of the wiring diagrams and related elec info that has been posted is just wrong, but we got there in the end with some help from a few locals plus some overseas, to sort out correct data.  basically, what you will find is every engine has at least one or two wires that dont appear on the diagrams or are wrong color, funny labels etc
    we got this one running on the factory computer and then swapped it to a haltec
    we modified the tacho so no idea why others are suggesting a BEAMS dash is needed
    i cant see what new OEM parts you would want to buy if the engine you buy is complete
    if you want to discuss it, call me at work sometime

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