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2011/05/12 09:11:31 (permalink)
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H3C to H3 conversion

So I'm tired of paying for the expensive rare H3C bulbs for the SW20 driving/fog lights, so has anyone done the conversion to the more common and cheaper H3 globes?
I hear that its just simply running a ground/neg wire from the housing/clip to the plug and I was hoping it would be this simple on the MR2 as well. 
Thoughts?
 
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    Re:H3C to H3 conversion 2011/05/12 09:52:55 (permalink)
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    how many foglight bulbs have you been through?

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    Re:H3C to H3 conversion 2011/05/12 09:55:51 (permalink)
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    my auto sparkey sells them for $2 each. only ever blown one.
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    Re:H3C to H3 conversion 2011/05/12 10:02:46 (permalink)
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    surok

    how many foglight bulbs have you been through?

    been through 2 already (both sides) in less than 2 years...
    Supercrap auto is only place i could find them for $25 each - i think their globes are probably inferior (like most of their stuff) so might go Philips H3 instead.

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    Re:H3C to H3 conversion 2011/05/12 10:13:25 (permalink)
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    I've blown two, looking at HIDs for the fogs down the track as well.
    I've just installed some H3 LED bulbs to try them out (they were cheap)
    The light is pretty crappy, but at least the conversion has been done now.
    Just ground a wire to this screw. You do need to know which of the two wires is positive though.
     


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    Re:H3C to H3 conversion 2011/05/12 10:30:40 (permalink)
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    Cheers mate,
    also here in SA you get your wallet raped for having fog lights on in anything other than "dust, fog, heavy rain" I believe..
    maybe we could have a look this weekend

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    Re:H3C to H3 conversion 2011/05/12 11:14:27 (permalink)
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    I've had good results from Phillips globes, they do seem to last well.
     
    Btw for people that don't already know, sw20 driving lights as fitted to Aus del cars have a long throw narrow beam, which is why they were set to only come on with the high beam h/lights.
    Unlike many Jdm cars that have fog lights with a short throw, wide beam. You can't tell the difference between the two just by looking at them in daylight. The inside reflectors are different.
    Just a thought for people wondering why some fog/driving lights throw a different light.
    post edited by Reddtarga - 2011/05/12 11:19:00

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    Re:H3C to H3 conversion 2011/05/12 11:34:45 (permalink)
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    Yep, ADM are driving lights and JDM are fog lights on the SW20.  You can spot the difference easily by looking at the glass lens.  The driving light lens has more areas that are clear or flat glass, the fog light has many vertical columns that are the lenses that spread the light (if that makes sense??).  You can see the light globe quite clearly in the ADM lights from some angles, no chance in the JDM fog light. 
     
    I can take a pic tonight of each so people can tell them apart easily.

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    post edited by artymr2 - 2011/05/12 11:41:09

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    Re:H3C to H3 conversion 2011/05/12 12:28:30 (permalink)
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    That's quite interesting...
    So the best combination for here in Australia would be the JDM fog light system (with steering) and ADM lenses. It may not be the best legally, but it would make it more useable for corners and the like.
    Josh - No worries. Sounds good. The weather looks like it will be pretty miserable for a Victor run.

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    Re:H3C to H3 conversion 2011/05/12 13:02:50 (permalink)
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    ok let me put aussie lenses in mine, because mine are pretty useless unless it is very heavy fog at night

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    Re:H3C to H3 conversion 2011/05/12 13:06:54 (permalink)
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    ADM lights would be legal if they only come on with high beam and are able to be switched off.
     
    Agree, factory fogs are essentially useless, would be good rigging them up as day time running lights to make your self visible without having to pop up the lights.  But that would be illeagal, which is a shame as you could aim them correctly so as not to blind oncoming traffic and enchance your visibility.
     
    Not sure it would be possible to swap the lenses (easily), it all looks glued together.
     
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    Re:H3C to H3 conversion 2011/05/12 14:08:28 (permalink)
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    Good discussion guys!
    I think one of mine is a bit loose too because I noticed the plastic behind the screws is busted, which would probably cause more vibration and kill the globe rather quickly as they were cheap globes too. 
    i know they are pretty useless being the JDM type but I do go out into the country time to time so its good to have them working if I need them as they give good side lighting for kangaroos lol.

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    Re:H3C to H3 conversion 2011/05/12 14:08:59 (permalink)
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    Mine have been rewired to come on with the parkers. (previous owner)
    I regularly use them for this, particularly in rain, because with the LED globes in them at the moment, it really isn't putting out much light. The reason, is the reflector 'cover' distorts the light pattern of the LED...
     
    The whole driving light/fog light debate is getting much harder now that daytime running lights are on the scene 'standard' in new cars. It wouldn't be hard to invert the circuit so that they come on all the time, EXCEPT with headlights. Obviously, angle and pattern would need to change though.

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    Re:H3C to H3 conversion 2011/05/12 14:37:53 (permalink)
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    Yeah about the whole DRL (daytime running lights) thing I spoke to Regency (vehicle inspections SA) because I had an eBay LED strips as a cheap DRL (wired into parkers) on the front but according to them they have to be "ADR approved" so I ripped them off.
     You can now buy ADR approved DRLs from Hella I believe that use Luxeon (Philips)high powered LEDs which are basically the same OEM on Mercs, Audis and the like so these should be perfectly legal. Cops wont be able to touch you with these as they come with an ADR approval sheet.
     

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    Re:H3C to H3 conversion 2011/05/12 17:01:57 (permalink)
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    My experience in  Vic is that even with 20 watt globes custom fitted to the driving lights to use as daytime runners and properly wired to only come on with the ignition and off when the h/lights are on, the cops reckon they are fogs and illegal just because they are mounted in that spot.
    I was pulled up and warned, absolutely no use arguing with them. You'd have to fit something ADR approved with the spec sheet in the car.

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