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Re: engine swap 2016/06/14 06:54:01 (permalink)
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Ok then fair enough the hard part is finding a cheep one

Have been also thinking more about the 1z i can drive that on my p's and realistically in the long run it would be a better motor more power to parts would be more available also tough decision deciding what one would be more fun haha
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Re: engine swap 2016/06/14 07:18:17 (permalink)
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Ok then fair enough the hard part is finding a cheep one

Have been also thinking more about the 1z i can drive that on my p's and realistically in the long run it would be a better motor more power to parts would be more available also tough decision deciding what one would be more fun haha



The 1ZZ is probably too underpowered for the heavier SW20.

How many years of P plates do you have left?
You have a couple of options to choose from, but at the end of the day you want to be satisfied with the option you choose. 

In saying that, take your car to the race track as is! You will have a blast and probably find that you really don't need much more power to have fun and beat a lot of cars. 

After my first track day I spent some money on tyres and brakes. After that I had no problem in taking on M3's and Elise's, as well as some turbo cars.


Dont underestimate the 3SGE - It's a trooper of an engine! 
 

1990 SW20 Hardtop - Supercharged 2GR-FZE
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Re: engine swap 2016/06/14 09:01:13 (permalink)
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From a driving enthusiasts point of view, the BEAMS engines are much better than either the 1MZ or 1ZZ: The last of the 3S engines, which peaked in technical sophistication before Toyota had to start tuning more meekly to meet pollution regulations ahead of power and responsiveness...
 
The BEAMS has the highest flow rate of ALL the 3S engines in fact, including the 3SGTE. 100bhp per litre (which is as good as many Ferrari engines in terms of power per cubic centimetre), super fast throttle response, still very economical too. Leaves a 1ZZ in the dirt performance wise. Wouldn't swap mine for any other Toyota four!
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Re: engine swap 2016/06/14 10:41:35 (permalink)
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i just feel that it could use more power and a better throttle response thats why i was considering just buying a standard 3sge and doing it up but i wasnt convinced i would make much more power thats why i have considered getting a beams motor just cant find one at a good price
 
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Re: engine swap 2016/06/14 13:01:49 (permalink)
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The amount you would spend rebuilding a gen2 3sge to get upto the same hp levels of the beams would cost you more than a beams.

Halfway option is to fit the gen3 ge.
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Re: engine swap 2016/06/14 13:07:17 (permalink)
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The amount you would spend rebuilding a gen2 3sge to get upto the same hp levels of the beams would cost you more than a beams.

Halfway option is to fit the gen3 ge.



even then the gains are minimal. 




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Re: engine swap 2016/06/14 19:30:51 (permalink)
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None of these options, or modfing in general, are going to be cheap. Gotta pay to mod.

Agree with Eric, suspension and tyres are a much better cash/return mod.
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Re: engine swap 2016/06/14 19:34:30 (permalink)
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+1 for decent tyres, wheels, suspension and brake pads. Made big improvements to my lap times.

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Re: engine swap 2016/06/15 16:43:16 (permalink)
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Ok then well sounds like it would be best to keep what ive got and make it drive beautiful plus a nice sounding exhaust wouldnt hurt
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