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2015/01/09 18:07:01 (permalink)
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Are Japanese Cars Really Reliable?

“Traditionally, Toyota and Honda are leading in terms of reliability and durability,”
Of the 10 most reliable cars Consumer Reports lists, nine are from Toyota, Lexus or Scion. Furthermore Lexus, Toyota, Mazda and Honda hold the top four spots in the publication’s automaker reliability report.
If you look at the full list of the most reliable cars, 92 percent of them are from Japanese automakers.
“Overall, Japanese manufacturers have been making very reliable
vehicles, especially those from Toyota and Lexus,” says Anita Lam from
Consumer Reports’ Automotive Data team. “But it doesn’t mean all
Japanese models are reliable.”
According to Consumer Reports, Nissan and its Infiniti luxury brand are struggling.“Nissan
hasn’t been a standout for years,” the latest reliability report reads.
“The redesigned Rogue managed an average reliability score, but the
Altima, Pathfinder, and Sentra all did poorly.” Infiniti is equally
unimpressive. Both the Q50 sedan and QX60 crossover had “more than their
fair share of problems,” the report says.

How did They Come to be so Good?
 
While it’s clear that not all cars are created equally, the question is how does Toyota  and Lexus manage such a stellar reliability rapport?
 
“They strive to build vehicles of high quality rather than excitement,”  “One reason why they can achieve this high reliability is, perhaps, they introduce new technologies slowly and on proven platforms.”
 
Look at how Toyota still manages to sell cars with ancient four-speed automatic transmissions or engines that have been in use for several years. “Their redesigns are seldom a drastic change from previous products”.
That follows the longstanding advice of never buying a first generation product. But very few of the products Toyota and Lexus sell are totally new. Even the latest Toyota Camry, with 2,000 new parts, still sports the same drivetrain as the last generation product from 2007.
The new Corolla also offers the same engine and transmissions as the last generation model although a new revised version of the engine with direct injection is also offered, mated to a new CVT.
The company clearly shows restraint in changing its products, which helps preserve its high reliability rating.
Few automakers maintain such a slow pace in adopting new trends. Honda also makes very slight changes to its core vehicles as well, which help bolster its reliability ratings.
Furthermore, a company that spends more time and money engineering products to last tend not to abandon or replace them quickly.
 
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2014/12/are-japanese-cars-really-reliable-.html
 
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    Re: Are Japanese Cars Really Reliable? 2015/01/12 18:02:44 (permalink)
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    Problem is, it's hard to buy an actual Japanese car now. Nissan - and by extension, Infiniti - are half French now, with the predictable outcome of Renaults have got better and Nissans have got worse. And if you buy from the other brands, you have to do your homework to find one that was actually made in Japan. Chances are that it was made in Thailand, the Czech Republic, or even in Britain. The parts may have been designed in Japan (excluding things like Bosch electrics), but then they're being built elsewhere, either for cheapness' sake, or advantages with local labour laws.
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    Re: Are Japanese Cars Really Reliable? 2015/01/14 11:24:28 (permalink)
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    My wife decided she wanted a Honda Jazz last year, right around end of financial year time. We decided to buy the outgoing model rather than the new and upcoming one purely because it was the last of the "made in Japan" Hondas. All Aussie delivered ones indeed come from Thailand now.
     
    Don't quote me on this but to my knowledge the only Japanese made cars delivered to Australia are Mazda and Subaru, the rest are all made in south east Asia.

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    Re: Are Japanese Cars Really Reliable? 2015/01/14 13:02:11 (permalink)
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    I don't think it's so much about the country by which the vehicle is assembled, more the manufacturer that designs, devops & tests it. With Japanese cars at least.
     
    Have heard though that VW quality can differ depending on country of assembly.
     
    I've owned quite a few different makes & I simply trust Japanese manufacturers. I lacked confidence that many of my past European cars would be trouble free after they ran out of warranty.
     
    The reason Toyota/Lexus has such a good reputation, lies with their overall commercial capabilities, from R&D, total test processes etc. The downside to large companies is their lack of flexibility/agility, the upside is that when they go to market, they can really bring resources to bear that the "smaller" guys can only dream of.

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    Re: Are Japanese Cars Really Reliable? 2015/01/14 13:55:22 (permalink)
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    Are Subaru still Japanese? Good to know. Though I'm never sure when they come out with something like Bosch electrics though.
     
    Skodas pretty much score consistently higher than other VW group cars with reliability and satisfaction (my mum's considering an Octavia), and it seems the Czechs are better at building solid cars than their German counterparts. I know one of the older little Toyotas was built there, the Aygo or whatever the feck it was called. The new NSX is going to be made in the US by the way. Hmmm. Most export BMWs are made in Alabama instead of Germany - would you want a car built by people who voted for George Bush Jr?
     
    What are your opinions on Australian built Japanese cars?
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    Re: Are Japanese Cars Really Reliable? 2015/01/14 14:21:10 (permalink)
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    Subaru are still Japanese yep, a lot of their electrics are still Denso rather than Bosch etc. so I guess some parts might be Taiwan etc. But the chassis and engine is still Japanese and proud of it. They've strayed quite a bit I think from their model lineup in the early/mid 00's but they're still essentially the same as always so hopefully they'll come around and start making good cars again. I'm very happy with my BRZ but you have to acknowledge it really is just a Toyota design with a Subaru engine and suspension, but that's why it's so good!
     
    Most RHD VW's/Audi's you'll find aren't really built in Germany anymore anyway! They're usually made in Hungary and the likes under factories bought under VW group.
    I will agree though Skoda's are a wolf in sheeps clothing; I just recently recommended the Octavia RS to a colleague looking to upgrade his 1st gen Mazda 3 MPS for something more roomy and luxurious but still sporty. He was blown away by how well the Octavia performed for it's price tag. Although they aren't the fastest and only FWD, at the moment you can't find a better new station wagon in the sub 50k range, especially since Subaru stopped making the Liberty wagon for the new model. Outbacks are just too big and cumbersome these days.
    Since the RS is just a previous gen Golf GTI engine, plenty of aftermarket tuning options available and the power increase from just an ECU reflash alone is enough to make you cringe for a FWD car.
     
    In regards to Aussie built Japanese cars, I've had limited experience apart from Magna's. I thought they were great cars when they were newer, but now that I've experienced them now they're long in the tooth, they really are just another falcon/commodore but with better trim.

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    Re: Are Japanese Cars Really Reliable? 2015/01/14 15:25:02 (permalink)
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    Yes, I long for the Subaru hey-day of the 90s, but I think they may slowly be starting to make their way back to that, if the latest looking WRX is anything to go by. We've had two Imprezas - 1x sedan and 1x estate - and we love them. The latest Outback is a monstrosity.
     
    I had two Aussie built Honda Preludes, and the bits that usually went wrong were the bits that weren't Japanese sourced.
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