• Queensland
  • New Membership Payments Scheme for 2016 - UPDATED (p.2)
2016/08/16 21:13:08
Dudeman
Eric
 
 
  1. Payments are listed on the bank statement per each. 
  2. I can simply email the statements to auditors if required
  3. Any committee member with an internet banking login can log-on and view the statement and have a full list of members.
  4. There is no possibility of cash deposits or the deposit book being lost, mistreated or destroyed.
  5. Most people have internet banking. This is a simple task to do.
 
 
     In the shortest terms: We just want people to pay electronically, once a year.
 
 
 

 
From an outsiders point of view I can see why you'd want it done electronically. So much easier for record keeping, those with access can see exactly who is current and when what was paid. And repeating more of the above - auditing requests are easy to comply with and things don't get lost as easily as they could. 
 
Trying to manage a club can't be easy alongside having a full-time job, having members randomly paying cash throughout the year and keeping paper records only add to the annoyance factor.
 
The carrot and stick approach can work - but no-one likes the stick. Try not to let this little thing turn into a major point of club friction, it'll be the Peoples Judean Front v. the People front of Judea otherwise... 
 
2016/08/16 23:49:24
rikkir
I just wish there was a club in SA to be a part of. Having regular activities and the social benefits would be worth a small fee. I don't see a problem with electronic payments, I pay all my bills that way, but obviously some people are different. I'm sure Eric is trying to do the best he can for the club and all its members. Surely the members can try to make his job a bit easier?
2016/08/17 07:55:54
Rob
dont forget The Judean people front they has a say to LOL
 
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, it'll be the Peoples Judean Front v. the People front of Judea otherwise... 
 




2016/08/17 08:29:07
dennis the menace
rikkir
 . . . I don't see a problem with electronic payments, I pay all my bills that way, but obviously some people are different.  . . . Surely the members can try to make his job a bit easier?



Rick, I agree with the concept of having electronic payment as an option - it was always intended to be so.  As to whether it will make the job easier, I'm not so sure.  I am very aware just how much time a voluntary position takes up, so any change to a process that makes the use of that time more efficient is a good thing.  The ground we're covering here, now, is the same ground covered back in the beginning.  The problems and pitfalls are still the same.
2016/08/17 08:40:19
Eric
dodgee

"Therefore, we will be introducing a new payments scheme from this year:"
I read it the same way Dennis the menace did, this is not a proposal it is a statement that this will be introduced.




Thats correct, it is being implemented, but after all above commentary I think it would beneficially to club members to discuss this at the AGM as well as on an open forum such as this

I'm not trying to annoy club members, I just want to make things easier to manage.

Dudeman
 
The carrot and stick approach can work - but no-one likes the stick. Try not to let this little thing turn into a major point of club friction, it'll be the Peoples Judean Front v. the People front of Judea otherwise... 
 



rikkir
I just wish there was a club in SA to be a part of. Having regular activities and the social benefits would be worth a small fee. I don't see a problem with electronic payments, I pay all my bills that way, but obviously some people are different. I'm sure Eric is trying to do the best he can for the club and all its members. Surely the members can try to make his job a bit easier?



Chris is right here about the carrot and the stick approach
I don't want to charge a fee because the club gets no benefit out of it, but we cant offer a discount for paying early either.
 
I don't want to cause friction with our members either because we cant operate without them. 


All of the above taken into consideration, how do members feel about the scheme if we exclude the fee?
 
dennis the menace
 
Rick, I agree with the concept of having electronic payment as an option - it was always intended to be so.  As to whether it will make the job easier, I'm not so sure.  I am very aware just how much time a voluntary position takes up, so any change to a process that makes the use of that time more efficient is a good thing.  The ground we're covering here, now, is the same ground covered back in the beginning.  The problems and pitfalls are still the same.



At AGM time sorting the financials out is taxing on my time. Currently I'm in my final semester of studying, and working in treasury operations in a bank. I'm lucky to be home at 8pm most nights. 

Yes, this 100% will make my life easier. I can export the statement into an excel file and run all my bank reconciliations straight off that
2016/08/17 13:39:38
5SGTE
So if there's no fee, where do the required funds come from?
2016/08/17 14:21:14
Eric
No Late fee 5SGTE

Membership is still $20
2016/08/17 15:34:46
5SGTE
Oh sorry, misunderstood, thought you meant club fee. Oops
2016/08/17 20:14:02
Groper
Eric,
What you have proposed is plausible, sensible and the way forward.
I support it fully. 
Bits of paper, membership lists and receipt books can be misplaced (as some of us would be aware). Further it means more work for the Treasurer.
A couple of alternatives have been offered. if a member doesn't want to or can't do an EFT deposit, you can visit a BOQ branch and make a deposit into the Club's Account, the Bank issues you a receipt and the Treasurer is alerted to your membership renewal by BOQ.
This is the 21st century everyone. Participate.
cheers
Steve
 
2016/08/18 07:07:10
Guest
So what does $20 buy you these days... Three cups of coffee.... A DVD... What tangibles does membership provide for a member and for the club....
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