2011/01/09 00:13:04
v6mr2
3800 and it will be ready for me to put in? If so then that sounds feasible.
2011/01/09 00:51:39
Dudeman
Would it be feasable to supercharge that engine in the 2 or is that a ridiculous concept?
2011/01/09 01:53:21
v6mr2
I think they do low thirteens Down the quarter with the na 2gr fe
Now looking at the aurion Wich is where there from, I think there's half a second difference between the standard aurion and the Trd (supercharged) version, I don't see why that wouldn't apply to these two engines compared to each other in an mr2?
Mid to high twelves maybe?
2011/01/09 09:21:23
2hardtop
v6mr2- Toyotas immobilizer equipped ECUs work like this

the transponder ecu needs to recognise the ignition key put into the ignition barrel
by detecting the chip(or whatever they call it) in the head of the key
that then tells the theft deterrent ecu to send a (rolling) code
to the engine ECU
which then sends back a different rolling code that the theft deterrent ECU will recognise
if either ECU does not get a code recieve/response the engine ECU turns off
and logs a failure
after several failed start attempts the ECU locks itself OFF.

this is how it worked in Toyotas from around 1995 onwards
I imagine there may well be even harder to defeat systems on the latest gen stuff.
although even the older stuff doesn't seem to have been cracked
to elliminate the immobilizer gear.

So without the complete system
you basically have an empty box that holds all the ECU plugs in an orderly fashion.
2011/01/09 09:30:02
Just1n_Mc
Surely thats even more of a reason to go aftermarket ECU.

Sounds like alot less hassles than trying to get the stock ecu/immob setup working and gives more scope for mods and tuning.
2011/01/09 09:42:31
v6mr2
I love how you put that one Greg :p

'you basically have an empty box that holds all the ECU plugs in an orderly fashion.'
2011/01/09 11:10:09
Road and Track
no, the aurion engine/loom/electrics price was for a standard one out of a wreck we have. all the other work to make it fit into a MR2 is extra as per my prices. if you are serious about this conversion from us, phone me during work hours please

i suspect you will never get it mod plated/registered with a non standard ECU unless you want to pay the $8000 or so for the ADR emission compliance tests.

a supercharger will not fit easily. as a MINIMUM it will need radical changes to the engine lid & strut braces . the belt drive system will be a struggle to fit as the stock V6 only just fits in this area. I got a genuine TRD Aurion supercharger manifold to check it out

2011/01/09 12:00:09
Dudeman
quote:

a supercharger will not fit easily. as a MINIMUM it will need radical changes to the engine lid & strut braces . the belt drive system will be a struggle to fit as the stock V6 only just fits in this area. I got a genuine TRD Aurion supercharger manifold to check it out




Wouldn't be 'too' radical for the engine lid, struts most likely.

Wallet? lotto territory...
2011/01/09 12:01:46
2hardtop
quote:
Originally posted by Just1n_Mc

Surely thats even more of a reason to go aftermarket ECU.

Sounds like alot less hassles than trying to get the stock ecu/immob setup working and gives more scope for mods and tuning.



as long as you get all the parts(not forgetting the key) from the donor vehicle, its fine.

to get Transit Authority approved/registered
is much simpler with a standard set up.

aftermarket ECU requires getting full emissions testing done as well
which can get expensive($/hr) trying to meet current level requirements.
Last I spoke to a guy who offers emissions testing/passing
he explained that it usually ends up costing between $800-1000
but includes/involves a lot more(parts) than just tuning an ECU
in that figure, to get to the result.
Then you go to the Transit test facility(which may be 100's of km away) and they test it and take more money.)

example of lack of facilities
NSW has 2 Transit Authority test stations
Botany and Penrith,here's where they are positioned in the state(blue dots)

not too bad if you happen to live near one.

*edit*
Note that by emissions testing/passing I did not mean that he is authorised to pass the car
but gets it to a passing level
where it will pass the test when taken to the Transit facility.
And the price(2yrs back) was his price and is not including the Transit Authority costs.
2011/01/11 17:15:43
Road and Track
all the rules have changed in NSW as of mid December. suggest you talk to NSW registered engineer before making any assumptions. make sure the enginner is registered under the new scheme (I'm told they all have to re-apply),.
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