2013/02/17 18:42:22
Gatesys SW20
I'm weighing up buying a turbo model or doing a swap with a turbo engine and box?

Pros and cons of each
Also anyone that has a semi built turbo engine I'd be willing to purchase.
2013/02/18 00:15:05
artymr2
I presume you currently have an NA?
 
If so then just assess the good/points of the rest of your current car.  If you have had it for a while then you know what is good what is bad etc, and know what you have, and evaluate if its worthwhile doing a swap.  Its fairly easy to do esp if you have a half cut.
 
Getting a complete car is obviously easier but you have the aspect of not knowing what you are buying.
 
Just weigh up the pros and cons of each option, including if you will be doing a swap or paying someone to do it, availability of half cut compared to turbo car etc, and make an informed decision.
 
Cheers
2013/02/18 07:21:31
Gatesys SW20
Thanks mate
That's what ie been thinking aswell, I know this car I have and I've done heaps of work,
But with the half cut,
The ecu will my harness go into the turbo ecu or a little wiring?
I could do most of it myself
But what's the go with engineers/ changing engine numbers etc?

A decent half cut would be about 4-6 thousand

But with buying a pre built turbo I could make some money back by selling my Na
Argh decisions :/
2013/02/18 08:28:18
dasic1
From what I understand is you want a half cut so you can swap everything over including the harness. Even still there is a chance of having to rewire/repin some plugs.

You will also want to add in the costs of doing the timing belt water pump hose from help ect.

There has been a few people on here that have done it so if you do a search it will help.
Evil138, bionical are 2 people that I can that I can remember
2013/02/18 09:06:05
Dudeman
Darius did the half cut swap and had it installed by a mechanic. Pm him if he doesn't post up here.
2013/02/18 09:27:47
Knightrous
On the flip side, for the price of a good half cut, you could buy a turbo, source a manifold to suit (stock or otherwise), source some bigger injectors, buy an aftermarket ECU and turbo your NA motor. The high compression NA motor with a turbo will be pretty responsive and with a good tune should be as reliable as a stock motor, power figures should match or exceed stock turbo figures. If your not abusive to your NA gearbox, it will handle the turbo (hell there are supercharged V6's in the UK running the S54 box...) and you will have a lighter setup running the NA gearbox, drive shafts and hubs in comparison.
 
The downside is, if your planning to go for big power in the near future, the high comp build will probably run out of head room rather quickly due to the compression and cams.
2013/02/18 10:28:37
3sgeTurbo
You can tubo the n/a motor - I have been there and done that,
 
The S54 is a pretty strong box I had a n/a with low comp pistons running 17psi and the S54 refused to die.
2013/02/18 11:02:05
Knightrous
3sgeTurbo
You can tubo the n/a motor - I have been there and done that,

What was your opinion of the NA+T build compared to a factory turbo?
2013/02/18 12:20:37
just_ace
what rev mr2 do you have? if it's a rev 2, the wiring is easier upgrading to a gen3 turbo than from a rev1.
 
what power are you after? i personally wouldn't whack a turbo onto a stock unopened gen2 NA motor. you need eveything to be done right or it will go poof very quickly. you can only run minimal boost and need to have it very well tuned.\
 
you could always rebuild your NA motor with forged pistons and add a turbo.
 
what i've wanted to see, is a 5s crank fitted to a gen2 NA motor with the long runner intalke manifold and a gt2860RS, it would be an awesome daily i rekon, lots of low end response, perfect for khana/hill climb etc.
2013/02/18 13:06:00
Tree
Ditched the Beams hey?
I know most ppl here are saying do halfcut or turbo the NA but just me, personally, I would just sell the NA car and get a good condition Rev 3+/Gen 3 and be done with it. I just don't want to go thru the hassle but maybe you enjoy working on it. Unless ur really attached to the NA (just give some time to let it go lol) then selling and buying would be "easier" for the non-mechanic type like me...
The NA should go to a decent home :)
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