2013/11/18 13:52:46
Mrskylighter
purple5ive
Gatesys SW20
ive noticed a lot of those cheaper parts, are usually parts that didn't pass quality testing by Toyota, ive ordered a part for my celica from one of those cheaper genuine sites, a waterpump, and it lasted 8 months. until it leaked and was ****ED
so just keep that in the back of your mind when buying,
some are cheaper for a reason, sometimers, you get a very good one, that only failed due to being out of spec by a pipteenth, other times, theres a good reason..


how exactly can you tell the difference between a part that passed QC at toyota and a Part that didnt?
im very curious to know.
you say that it was only out by a pipteenth, did you actually measure it before and after and with a part that passed QC??
im really suprised there can be two types of genuine parts, i wuld have thought that not passing QC means they go in the bin and get recycled..
 
Nick - lithia toyota has been usually quite good and Twosrus
cheers
 




Yep, Twosrus rock solid reliability and quick shipping (as long as they have your part and you happy to pay for express shipping)
Lithia has been good to me in the past as well. I feel their prices are moving up though which is what made me start investigating all the options.
2013/11/18 13:55:43
maj
I email them directly: parts@nst.co.nz
 
Also worthwhile mentioning you are a Toyota enthuiast and club member etc. so they just don't think you are an Internet random :)
Also on that note, Castle hill Toyota are *supposed* to do discount for Toymods members, and Amayama do if you specify your Toymods username in the comments field before generating the quote.
 
I know the MR2 club is a completely separate entity and have no intentions of promoting one group over another, but if you are an enthuiast and helpful in any way you can, I feel you deserve to know this information. It's completely up to you if you wish to use it or not.
2013/11/18 13:57:03
Gatesys SW20
well im sure there meant to go into the 'bin'
but im sure they sell there, failed parts they sell them to someone else for 'resale'

Authorised Toyota dealers only sell quality Toyota parts,

Where do you think most of those mobs get there parts from to offer them so so so cheap,
FAR cheaper than my cost price working at Toyota.
and offer them cheaper than most Toyota dealers cost price, and still make a profit.

No, what im saying it some parts could be as little as.05mm out of spec and that in Toyota eyes fails.
the part could work fine and last years, but Toyota don't take the risk. with there high QC regs.

So they probably off load those parts to a wholesale market, or to a secondary buyer in bulk.

and the ones a lot out of spec would be recycled and binned.
but im just saying from experience. 8 months, and the site I brought it from offered zero warranty on it.
On a Supposed GENUINE TOYOTA part brand new and sealed,

now this was before I was working at Toyota, and knew that all parts apart from electrical items carry 12 months parts and labour warranty.

Im only assuming, I could be well wrong.
but just trying to put two and two together..


But Mrskylighter, those parts would cost me to buy about 500$ so that 240$ for all parts IS VERY good!

:) Some parts I can get pretty cheap others I cant compete with the overseas vendors, or some Australian non authorised genuine Toyota parts dealers.
2013/11/18 13:59:36
maj
Also on the note of Quality control. From what I hear a lot of perfectly useable parts that didn't meet Toyota QC standards usually get their stamp removed and sold as Denso parts or a similar manufacturer. Nothing *wrong* with them, just for one reason or another the batch didn't pass TGP quality standards.
 
Hence why I mentioned if you receive a part with an official Toyota receipt, in a Toyota genuine parts box from a Toyota dealership, you should be entitled to some form of warranty.
 
These are no different to parts supplied and fitted at a dealership, only terms of warranty are different, where you have to prove that by no means of your own fitting was the cause of the part failing.
2013/11/18 14:11:52
Mrskylighter
Received my quote for 2x AW11 front control arms from North Shore Toyota in New Zealand.
$292 NZD inc gst ($260AUD) for the parts and $55 NZD inc gst ($49AUD) for the shipping.
 
I think we have a winner. Approx $310 AUD shipped from a bricks & morter Toyota dealership in NZ.
2013/11/18 14:15:10
Gatesys SW20
Spot on Maj
that's basically all I was trying to say,

But yeah, those part prices are nearly 3 times cheaper than what I can even buy them for :)
I would If I were you get them from either majs idea, or the onlineparts.com

I agree, that Toyota Australia, is absolutely a joke.
for example,
Remote batteries, we sell for 26$ cost us about half.
and I could buy 5 energizer batteries the EXACT same for the same price..
2013/11/18 14:20:02
Mrskylighter
I stuffed up the New Zealand dealer price calculation :) I added gst to their price but that is not required as they are exporting the parts. Yay!
$260 NZD ($231 AUD) plus shipping $49 NZD ($44 AUD)
 
So $275 AUD shipped for 2 x front control arms from NZ.
 
Thanks for the tip maj. I had heard about them in the past but never bothered to get a price or make contact. Wish I had now!
 
 
The part number i'm using for pricing if anyone is interested is 48068-17010
2013/11/18 14:24:23
mister2
I just got a whole bunch of parts delivered from Amayama last week.  Had no problems getting a quote from them at all.
2013/11/18 14:25:43
just_ace
Unfortunately toyota australia pays more for their parts than other countries. So even if you work there you wont ness get the best price.

The inflated price is not soley toyota aus' s mark up.
2013/11/18 14:26:46
maj
Yep they're pretty damned good. I would recommend them only when you are looking at finding unobtainable parts (NZ has their own stock database, some of which are no longer available in Japan) or when you are looking at reasonable shipping prices. I would still prefer to use Amayama since they have their own shop in Australia too, but as mentioned they get busy at times.
 
NST rely on smooth transactions though since these guys are literally manning a dealership service department too, so as long as they aren't too bogged down, they'll continue to do us good business.
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