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2013/11/05 18:02:58
Admin
WIDEMR
Thanks.
 
Yeah i might be able to tow it up...


Please don't bring it. It will make all of our cars look bad!
2013/11/05 18:35:02
Admin
B24
The problem with our cars is the in tank fuel pump which takes a lot of time to fix. There was talk of running external pumps for primary and secondary for this reason of access. Right now I have to remove the tank (as in tonight/tomorrow) which is a PITA. Having external units would be quite a boon or do what Admin has done, access hole in the cabin.


I'll be putting a new pump into my car on the weekend. Should take 20 minutes.
 
Here are some pics of the panel;
http://www.mr2australia.com/mr2play/FindPost/59408
2013/11/05 19:05:07
WIDEMR
I took my tank out the other day, prob a whole 2 minutes!
(Air jacks plus everything was disconnected off it and no under trays or coolant pipes ect)
 
Had it in and out several times to work out few things i need to do to it.
 
Thought i posted this with some of the other sensors but guess i didnt, heres my fuel level sensor which was custom made (length and calibration for fuels) by Gill Sensors.
Basically is solid state (capacitive) so no moving parts so you can fill tank with foam and has a good configurable 0-5V output - connecting the factory sensor up to a digital dash just dosent work well, no matter how much i slow it down it still updates way to fast.
 
These sensors are used in all V8 supercars (altho bio fuel version) and Gill level sensors are used on everythign up to F1.
 
http://www.gillsensors.com/content/R-Series-liquid-level-sensor.html
 

 
Bit pitty is the 5 bolt SAE pattern is ever so slightly different to the factory one! I knew it was goignt o be close, hoping would be the same. I have to make up a small adapter spacer, i factored that into the length i ordered altho will fit without spacer still, just.
Or i can drill (elongate) out the holes on the sensor a bit, that will work, but dont want to wreck or modify an expensive sensor.
To order custom sensor top would have been alot more expensive.
2013/11/06 00:00:44
MCT_MR2
the blue looks a lot better than the yellow, I ordered 2 custom length ones for customers cars. make sure you run a low refresh rate on whatever gauge you use (moreso if it feeds to the dash), unless you have the tank filled with foam, as it is distracting with it jumping around on track. Just curious, did you order yours through racer industries??
2013/11/06 12:08:13
WIDEMR
Yeah will have foam in the tank and its not like ill have my dash on that page showing fuel level when im driving, exp as most will be short runs like time attack / sprints / hill climb / club track days so its more just back in the pits to make sure i have enough fuel for the run but not too much.
 
Not that you realy see the colour when its installed on a MR2. A boot mount tank yes i suppose. Were they bio-fuel ones?
 
I guess you mean this colour? this is one of the Nissan V8 supercars, i took few pics when i was at there workshop.
 
 
No i didnt not order through Racer Ind. There is another Australian supplier aswell (altho i guess V8SC teams have to come via RI), but it was not through them as i saw there add in a mag after i had ordered it, got it from a guy in USA that does electricial for indycars.
2013/11/06 13:08:52
MCT_MR2
yeah, ours were ethanol/methanol compliant.
I hope you got a far better price than RI, ours are quite short, as we only run 20l tanks, and from memory we got a handful of change from $1, 000p/u
2014/02/01 11:59:56
WIDEMR
Bit of a change, i have sold off my Vi-pec ecu and Racepak dash, power module, modules ect saved up some money and and replaced it all with Motec.
 
Each of the items i had were great on there own, for there price, its how they interfaced with each other was the limitation for me.
 
The Motec without question is much better, for each item there is just so much more it can do, such as logging up to 1,000hz instead of 100hz, log up to 1,000 channels, the dash has alot more warnings and warning/shift lights that can be configured ect, 4 configurable CAN buses, 2 RS232 ect and just alot more it can do behind the scenes.
 
The dash / data logger is the new Motec C185, was released month or 2 ago

 
The C185 has a single 79 pin Deutsch autosport connector, same as the ADL3 ect.

 
Powered it up and to test a few things, this was just running through a demo it has loaded on it. There are several screen layouts you can choose from, and you can have 3 pages you can scroll between, each can have different layout and channels shown, for example a warmup page can be just full of numbers to show temps, pressures, positions ect as your warming the car up before the race or a race page showing mainly just lap times (current lap, last lap, predicted lap time ect). Pressing a button (on my steering wheel) will toggle between the pages, and also scroll through channels on the bottom row. 

 
Showing a warning message. You can program up 48 different alarm messages, each with multiple conditions as to what will bring it on

 
Motec PDM 32, Power Distribution Module, replaces all the fuses / circuit breakers on the car. solid state. you can program the current limit individually for each output, automatic resets if it blows the 'fuse', i can see and log each outputs state (on/off/failed but will retry/failed and max retries reached ect) current draw and voltage.

 

 
Motec M880 ECU. (basically the same as the M800 ecu but with a autosport connector, advanced functions and logging already enabled)

 
Motec VIM (input expansion) 
May look used, it is actually from Paul Wheels V8 Supercar that was involved in a incident at the top of Mt Panorama / Bathurst in 2008 and was destroyed (Hope it still works!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0Vk4n61bHs 
The car was then rebuilt a bit, then sent overseas to be crash tested, they crash tested it head on with a wall, not to see what it does to the car, but to leave a inprint on the wall and get data, to see what it did to the wall, so they can understand more what happens, to then improve side impact on the cars ect. Heres the crash testing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJw-Jt1OfY8

 
Motec (Racegrade/Greyhill) CAN keypad. Each button can be programmed to do anything, all is sent over the CAN. Each button has 3 LEDs, again can be programmed, usually to show if the output or function the button is controlling is turned on or off or has a fault ect

 

 

 
Motec UTC

 
Still a few more items i need to buy, such as SKM (knock module) and Racegrade GPS inteface
2014/02/01 13:01:23
kameleon
Jesus christ Brendan.....
2014/02/01 13:44:20
Admin
I want to see this thing running at MR2TC 2015
2014/02/01 14:54:06
robk
kameleon
Jesus christ Brendan.....

I had the same reaction hahahaha
 
Admin
I want to see this thing running at MR2TC 2015

Same. What's the likelihood Brendan?
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